No, sorry. I'm not following you. Will I be able to customize my view so that I have dark text on a light background?
Yes, there will be two versions of the new skin. We've not yet started on the one you want, we're still working on the basics of the one that we posted. Once that's done we can concentrate on making a light backgrounded version.
Yes, there will be two versions of the new skin. We've not yet started on the one you want, we're still working on the basics of the one that we posted. Once that's done we can concentrate on making a light backgrounded version.
But can I cajole, beg and plead that you keep the clean simplicity of the current dgrin interface? That's one of the things I LOVE about it. It isn't cluttered up by zilions of icons, buttons, colour-schemes, sub-menus and STUFF. Simple Can Be Good
Just my 2c.
We're cleaning house, not decorating with tchotchkes. :davidto
David, thanks for the answer about the "You" button--much appreciated.
I echo Neill's post about ratings. I also belong to other boards that use ratings. They fit fine for those subjects but I don't see a need for it on DGrin. Sure, I like to hear nice things about my shots but the real reason I come to DGrin is for the community and for the help with my photography.
Looking forward to seeing everything!
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I agree with Neil. IMHO the ratings are useless and that feature should just be removed. I remember once I especially liked a thread and gave it 5 stars. I think that's the only rating I've ever given.
Over the years I've been a member of Dgrin, the most frequently and spontaneously expressed appreciations I have seen have been for the quality of the communication here, for the help given on the spot by people you feel some friendship for, for the very real community of people passionate about photography, about enjoying photography, and enjoying association with each other. To my mind that needs no added tinsel. That needs no social media style whipped up ratings popularity frenzy.
This looks like the type of UI change that will get me to spend more time on DG. (TBQH, I am somewhat put off by the current color / design schemes, as superficial as that sounds.) Looking forward to it!
This looks like the type of UI change that will get me to spend more time on DG. (TBQH, I am somewhat put off by the current color / design schemes, as superficial as that sounds.) Looking forward to it!
Good to hear! I can tell you that even though it's unfinished, the version we're working with behind the scenes is MUCH more enjoyable. I think you'll be pleased.
This looks like the type of UI change that will get me to spend more time on DG. (TBQH, I am somewhat put off by the current color / design schemes, as superficial as that sounds.) Looking forward to it!
Not sure what you have in mind as an alternative to the s.q.
For the best viewing of images - and doesn't that touch on the heart of the philosophy at SM & DG - you need dim and neutral surrounds. Which is what we, elegantly, have (almost). As soon as you put complex and coloured visuals on the same page as images two things happen: first your eyes keep getting tangled up in those distractions, and second they change the perception of colour. Only recently, gaudy and excessive signatures were given the bullet here for just such reasons.
Such style pages would be a plague on serious enjoyment of people's work here. OK for the lowest common denominator sites owned by Yahoo, Google, and their like, sure. Those environments need a bit of hyperactivity to make up for the less exciting images and personalities generally in those places!rofl Peace!
There is something to be said for having class, especially when that class is based on actual best viewing principles.
It may be something that you can’t provide given the software that runs the site. But . . . my biggest problem is that I have to increase to get a large enough font for easy reading (I am 68) and then that makes it necessary to scroll from left to right and back again for every line EVER TIME there is a large photo in the same post! Part of that is my screen size as I am on an older (ThankPad from just as Lenovo was taking over from IBM) 15" laptop as my ONLY computer running XP PRO.
I would so like to have a way to get the text at a size that is easy to read without scrolling because of the size photo(s) posted in the same post. This also makes it necessary to scroll the larger photos or reduce things to the point where I can’t read the text posted with them.
It may be something that you can’t provide given the software that runs the site. But . . . my biggest problem is that I have to increase to get a large enough font for easy reading (I am 68) and then that makes it necessary to scroll from left to right and back again for every line EVER TIME there is a large photo in the same post! Part of that is my screen size as I am on an older (ThankPad from just as Lenovo was taking over from IBM) 15" laptop as my ONLY computer running XP PRO.
I would so like to have a way to get the text at a size that is easy to read without scrolling because of the size photo(s) posted in the same post. This also makes it necessary to scroll the larger photos or reduce things to the point where I can’t read the text posted with them.
I am also working on a ThinkPad running XP. Since the screen is high resolution, most text is too small to read without enlargement. You might want to try a Firefox extension called NoSquint. It is more sophisticated than the standard FF zoom controls. You can control text size independently of other screen graphics (like images) and it remembers the settings you choose for each site you visit. Check it out.
It may be something that you can’t provide given the software that runs the site. But . . . my biggest problem is that I have to increase to get a large enough font for easy reading (I am 68) and then that makes it necessary to scroll from left to right and back again for every line EVER TIME there is a large photo in the same post! Part of that is my screen size as I am on an older (ThankPad from just as Lenovo was taking over from IBM) 15" laptop as my ONLY computer running XP PRO.
I would so like to have a way to get the text at a size that is easy to read without scrolling because of the size photo(s) posted in the same post. This also makes it necessary to scroll the larger photos or reduce things to the point where I can’t read the text posted with them.
Jane, we are working on something to deal with large photos. Your feedback is great, and I'll keep it in mind as we test out the new method we're working on.
Not sure what you have in mind as an alternative to the s.q.
For the best viewing of images - and doesn't that touch on the heart of the philosophy at SM & DG - you need dim and neutral surrounds. Which is what we, elegantly, have (almost). As soon as you put complex and coloured visuals on the same page as images two things happen: first your eyes keep getting tangled up in those distractions, and second they change the perception of colour. Only recently, gaudy and excessive signatures were given the bullet here for just such reasons.
Such style pages would be a plague on serious enjoyment of people's work here. OK for the lowest common denominator sites owned by Yahoo, Google, and their like, sure. Those environments need a bit of hyperactivity to make up for the less exciting images and personalities generally in those places!rofl Peace!
There is something to be said for having class, especially when that class is based on actual best viewing principles.
Caveat mutator!
Neil
Neil, I honestly don't know if there's a feature request in this post, or if you're just making a comment.
Either way is fine, just not sure if I should be taking notes!
Jane, we are working on something to deal with large photos. Your feedback is great, and I'll keep it in mind as we test out the new method we're working on.
There's a bunch of great plugins for this on vb.org
Neil, I honestly don't know if there's a feature request in this post, or if you're just making a comment.
Either way is fine, just not sure if I should be taking notes!
Hi David, really was just responding to Brendan's dissatisfaction with the current DG viewing environment.
...Which is pretty close to ideal, I reckon!
If I were to wish for anything, it would be to make a virtue, as well as a necessity, of minimalism!:D At the moment we have a really image viewing enhancing balance of restrained greys which interrelate in a sophisticated layout with gradients and subtle contrasts. (Actually the gradients are a perceptual illusion - which underlines the danger of introducing colour on these pages - it will certainly affect the perception of colours in images - how can we tell if there is a colour cast issue, or whether what we perceive is inaccurate?) Whoever designed this originally had class, both in understanding of best image viewing principles and artistic elegance.
The banner at the top of the viewing pages, which I always try to avoid looking at, could perhaps do with a revamp. The idea of designing the site like a gallery experience appeals to me: when you go to a gallery the lobby/foyer/atrium is visually very busy, colourful and exciting - it stimulates and sensitises your senses for the treats to come. But when you enter an exhibition, everything is stripped away to allow the works themselves to have full and total command of your attention.
It's never my wish to throw cold water on enthusiasm, but at the same time I think what exists has to be reassessed not from a position of how it can be changed, but how its value can be retained.
Neil,
We're adding a little color gradient to the banner and nav bar. The rest of the thread view will remain neutral. I think the image viewing experience will be be pretty much the same. Like you, I scroll down immediately so as not to let the color of the thumbs interfere with seeing the pics in all their glory.
Just an update: we've been hard at work on this, especially over the past 30 days. We're nearly done! We are expecting to launch on August 1st, or thereabouts.
Since FB/Twitter are rolled into Dgrin at present, will G+ be integrated into Dgrin 2.0? A +1 would be nice to share posts. Would be awesome if I could have a +1 that would feature a drop down to share with a particular circle.
Since FB/Twitter are rolled into Dgrin at present, will G+ be integrated into Dgrin 2.0? A +1 would be nice to share posts. Would be awesome if I could have a +1 that would feature a drop down to share with a particular circle.
It's not in the plan for v1, as it's all so new, but we will look at it.
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Yes, there will be two versions of the new skin. We've not yet started on the one you want, we're still working on the basics of the one that we posted. Once that's done we can concentrate on making a light backgrounded version.
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I think we're going to hit that high mark!
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Sounds good. Thanks for a direct answer.
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I echo Neill's post about ratings. I also belong to other boards that use ratings. They fit fine for those subjects but I don't see a need for it on DGrin. Sure, I like to hear nice things about my shots but the real reason I come to DGrin is for the community and for the help with my photography.
Looking forward to seeing everything!
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That is the plan.
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Good to hear! I can tell you that even though it's unfinished, the version we're working with behind the scenes is MUCH more enjoyable. I think you'll be pleased.
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Not sure what you have in mind as an alternative to the s.q.
For the best viewing of images - and doesn't that touch on the heart of the philosophy at SM & DG - you need dim and neutral surrounds. Which is what we, elegantly, have (almost). As soon as you put complex and coloured visuals on the same page as images two things happen: first your eyes keep getting tangled up in those distractions, and second they change the perception of colour. Only recently, gaudy and excessive signatures were given the bullet here for just such reasons.
Such style pages would be a plague on serious enjoyment of people's work here. OK for the lowest common denominator sites owned by Yahoo, Google, and their like, sure. Those environments need a bit of hyperactivity to make up for the less exciting images and personalities generally in those places!
There is something to be said for having class, especially when that class is based on actual best viewing principles.
Caveat mutator!
Neil
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I would so like to have a way to get the text at a size that is easy to read without scrolling because of the size photo(s) posted in the same post. This also makes it necessary to scroll the larger photos or reduce things to the point where I can’t read the text posted with them.
I am also working on a ThinkPad running XP. Since the screen is high resolution, most text is too small to read without enlargement. You might want to try a Firefox extension called NoSquint. It is more sophisticated than the standard FF zoom controls. You can control text size independently of other screen graphics (like images) and it remembers the settings you choose for each site you visit. Check it out.
Don't make me guess!
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Jane, we are working on something to deal with large photos. Your feedback is great, and I'll keep it in mind as we test out the new method we're working on.
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Neil, I honestly don't know if there's a feature request in this post, or if you're just making a comment.
Either way is fine, just not sure if I should be taking notes!
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Want faster uploading? Vote for FTP!
Hi David, really was just responding to Brendan's dissatisfaction with the current DG viewing environment.
...Which is pretty close to ideal, I reckon!
If I were to wish for anything, it would be to make a virtue, as well as a necessity, of minimalism!:D At the moment we have a really image viewing enhancing balance of restrained greys which interrelate in a sophisticated layout with gradients and subtle contrasts. (Actually the gradients are a perceptual illusion - which underlines the danger of introducing colour on these pages - it will certainly affect the perception of colours in images - how can we tell if there is a colour cast issue, or whether what we perceive is inaccurate?) Whoever designed this originally had class, both in understanding of best image viewing principles and artistic elegance.
The banner at the top of the viewing pages, which I always try to avoid looking at, could perhaps do with a revamp. The idea of designing the site like a gallery experience appeals to me: when you go to a gallery the lobby/foyer/atrium is visually very busy, colourful and exciting - it stimulates and sensitises your senses for the treats to come. But when you enter an exhibition, everything is stripped away to allow the works themselves to have full and total command of your attention.
It's never my wish to throw cold water on enthusiasm, but at the same time I think what exists has to be reassessed not from a position of how it can be changed, but how its value can be retained.
Neil
http://www.behance.net/brosepix
We're adding a little color gradient to the banner and nav bar. The rest of the thread view will remain neutral. I think the image viewing experience will be be pretty much the same. Like you, I scroll down immediately so as not to let the color of the thumbs interfere with seeing the pics in all their glory.
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It's not in the plan for v1, as it's all so new, but we will look at it.
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