I am to the point of just giving up this smugmug thing. I can't understand why it is so difficult to just re-create a customization for my site. If anyone can help, let me know.
I am to the point of just giving up this smugmug thing. I can't understand why it is so difficult to just re-create a customization for my site. If anyone can help, let me know.
Hi Diane! I'm so sorry you're frustrated- but the good news is we can help! Email us, http://help.smugmug.com ATTN: Eric and we'll get you the help you need asap.
Hey Diane. Can you give me an idea of what you are trying to do? If you can write up a post in the customization forum I'm sure we can help get you sorted out. Or like Andy suggested you can email the help desk with ATTN: Eric and I can help you with your customization there as well.
I don't think this thread was meant cover mobile, it's only about the new style. Way too much off-topic.
Sorry, no. It's hardly off topic. We are talking about layout here. In bird terms for you, the golden goose would be a scheme that works in a desktop browser yet can easily be ported to mobile with minimal rework.
Someone pointed out a Zenfolio layout several posts back and I noted that not only did I like some elements in it, it worked well on mobile (I don't think as a mobile redirect). Mobile smartphones and tablets are the future; If we confine our feedback to the desktop design at hand and ignore ties to mobile, the design is likely to be moot and in the wastebasket in a few years (or less). http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2011/07/28-of-us-smartphone-owners-use-them-as-primary-net-connection.ars (trend is UPWARD)
Sorry, no. It's hardly off topic. We are talking about layout here. In bird terms for you, the golden goose would be a scheme that works in a desktop browser yet can easily be ported to mobile with minimal rework.
Someone pointed out a Zenfolio layout several posts back and I noted that not only did I like some elements in it, it worked well on mobile (I don't think as a mobile redirect). Mobile smartphones and tablets are the future; If we confine our feedback to the desktop design at hand and ignore ties to mobile, the design is likely to be moot and in the wastebasket in a few years (or less). http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2011/07/28-of-us-smartphone-owners-use-them-as-primary-net-connection.ars (trend is UPWARD)
They are part of the future, not all of it. These devices will never replace the desktop fully except for the most casual of users, and to suggest otherwise is wishful thinking at best. I agree that it would be nice to have my site render well on a smartphone but I would definitely place that as second priority. After all, any smartphone that truly deserves to be called "smart" can render a regular web page just fine. I have a large customization project on hold waiting for the "new design" to go live and if SM were to drop the ball on that in favor of building a phone-specific site I would pick up and leave.
They are part of the future, not all of it. These devices will never replace the desktop fully except for the most casual of users, and to suggest otherwise is wishful thinking at best. I agree that it would be nice to have my site render well on a smartphone but I would definitely place that as second priority. After all, any smartphone that truly deserves to be called "smart" can render a regular web page just fine. I have a large customization project on hold waiting for the "new design" to go live and if SM were to drop the ball on that in favor of building a phone-specific site I would pick up and leave.
Content generators will always use large desktops or whatever device provides a large workspace. Consumers will all go tablets and smartphones. I'll put my life's savings on that bet. Have you not see teenagers these days?
The content presentation will shift to those device types, not simply a faithful render of a desktop browser. The input device (finger) is too different. Ok, Allen is right. This is somewhat off track now. I'm gonna bug out.
Content generators will always use large desktops or whatever device provides a large workspace. Consumers will all go tablets and smartphones. I'll put my life's savings on that bet. Have you not see teenagers these days?
The content presentation will shift to those device types, not simply a faithful render of a desktop browser. The input device (finger) is too different. Ok, Allen is right. This is somewhat off track now. I'm gonna bug out.
Teenagers on the whole seem to want everything given to them or to steal it... many of them have no sense of intellectual property such as photographs and believe that if it is displayed on the web it is their god-given right to take and use it as they see fit. Not the demographic I'm shooting for with my sales, so maybe it's better if they can't see my work.
/sarcasm
Again, I think smartphone support is worthwhile but definitely as a much lower priority. The variations in screen sizes and browsers are far greater than in the desktop/laptop world and I for one prefer that SM not be distracted with that can of worms until they get the desktop presentation nailed.
Adobe Dropping Flash for Mobile - Websites Next?
Adobe announced today, November 10, 2011 - "Adobe Systems Inc halted development of its Flash Player for mobile browsers, surrendering to Apple Inc in a war over Web standards ....."
Will this lead to a further Flash decline in favor of HTML5?
The site is clean, and there are no huge thumbnails at the left as at our new design. There's one photo, user can click on it and there's next photo loading.
I want to say that it should be possibility to get clean, very simple design of site. OK, for some people new design is great, but there should be options to configure thumbnails at the left and all icons and keywords to make site clean and simple, and to present only the one picture or picture and arrows without need to click on any "Fullscreen" or "Slideshow" button.
Now, thanks to John Friend and his great Slideshow (HTML 5 ready) i created my site very clean with two arrows for move gallery foward and backward, and also keypress -> and <- to navigate.
So if smugmug prepared such gallery style it would be a revolution. ;-)
Adobe announced today, November 10, 2011 - "Adobe Systems Inc halted development of its Flash Player for mobile browsers, surrendering to Apple Inc in a war over Web standards ....."
Will this lead to a further Flash decline in favor of HTML5?
If so, is Smugmug's new design moving to HTML5?
We are using HTML5 in our uploader, and in our slideshows now as well. I expect we'll use it in more places, too.
When I click on the "i" button it shows me date modified in the DATE FIELD, and not date taken. Is there a way to change that.
In the earlier older gallery thingy, both used to be shown in basic info
5months later
The new design is very nice, and I am eager to see it live for my customers. Do we have any ETA on that at this point? It has been five months since the introduction of it, and each day that I look at the current production version of the site I wish it would be updated.
Lets move forward and improve the design for the masses.
We'll get it fixed in the new style, can't say when though. Thanks.
Thanks Andy.
I have another "feature request".
right now, if I want to see Longtiude/latitude/Altitude in EXIF/IPTC, there is no way except for downloading the image, and doing right click in windows.
Is it possible, that the detailed field shows GPS related fields of the exif too?
That will be simply great!
This can later be enhanced and we can be given a feature. For example, search for pictures with Altitude>3000m
The new design is very nice, and I am eager to see it live for my customers. Do we have any ETA on that at this point? It has been five months since the introduction of it, and each day that I look at the current production version of the site I wish it would be updated.
Lets move forward and improve the design for the masses.
Anyone have any news? To be honest I'm getting rather frustrated with the stagnancy of the SM site design. I've had my own site "redesign" on hold for months, waiting on SM's new designs and offerings, but with soccer season fast approaching (yes, sports photographer) I'm feeling the pressure to move on to another host.
No news. It's still designated an "alpha" preview, which is meant to say "we're not even going to speculate on a release window". "Beta" would have hinted at 6-12 months but that's come and gone. I'm very unhappy.
You won't be when you see what we're gonna come out with, promise. This thread, and the feedback that you and everyone else has supplied, has been amazing.
I'm really looking forward to seeing what results from all the talk of what's coming. Hopefully it will be sooner than later. I'm very excited for the full rollout of the new design, and some love for SM on mobile devices and tablets.
For what I pay annually for smugmug, I feel like SM should be further along with all this.
You won't be when you see what we're gonna come out with, promise. This thread, and the feedback that you and everyone else has supplied, has been amazing.
Andy, I think people's frustration comes from the total lack of any indication of timing on this - unless of course we've missed it. I know the response from you is that you don't give dates etc etc, but something to indicate more specifically how development is progressing would be good - please :-)
My renewal is just a month away now and I want be sure that I can continue for the next year exactly as in previous years without any loss of the way I like to customize. If I renew and you roll out the new designs, and I find they don't suit me, will I get a partial refund on my subscription?
I don't want to leave Smugmug, this will be my 5th anniversary.
Andy, I think people's frustration comes from the total lack of any indication of timing on this - unless of course we've missed it. I know the response from you is that you don't give dates etc etc, but something to indicate more specifically how development is progressing would be good - please :-)
My renewal is just a month away now and I want be sure that I can continue for the next year exactly as in previous years without any loss of the way I like to customize. If I renew and you roll out the new designs, and I find they don't suit me, will I get a partial refund on my subscription?
I don't want to leave Smugmug, this will be my 5th anniversary.
No news. It's still designated an "alpha" preview, which is meant to say "we're not even going to speculate on a release window". "Beta" would have hinted at 6-12 months but that's come and gone. I'm very unhappy.
The fact that it takes so long for any update might just be a sign or indication that SmugMug is overhauling their initial new design from the bottom up... It's just my gut feeling but... It takes time to rewrite, reprogram and code everything from the bottom up. That's why I consider the recent silence to be extremely auspicious (absorbing the feedback and reprogramming it all cannot be done overnight -- really NOT). I think we indeed will be positively surprised with what they will present next!
Also consider that it's in pre-alpha and that it was a sneak peek... Most companies will never let you look at it in such an early phase. It's from the feedback in such an early phase that SM can learn lots about customer desires and program the new design accordingly. In case it was in Beta or a Release Candidate, it would have been a nightmare to rewrite everything to fulfill the customers' wishes...
Being new to SmugMug, I can't comment on what the changes will mean to those who have painstakingly customized their pages, but I certainly do hope the 'new' includes a much more user-friendly way to do it!
Being a tinkerer, I love the idea that you can have so much control over the look of your pages, but sadly, that means you have to tinker around a lot just to get up and running (unless you want the very plain 'I just put my photos on SmugMug' look).
And if this is not appropriate to this thread, I apologize, but I really hope the new SM includes an easy, user-friendly way to incorporate a Client Proofing/Viewing page where the customer may insert name and password to be taken directly to their private gallery.
Guess I'll join the rest in saying I'm really looking forward to the new design!
Lois riesepix.com - Totally 'under construction' as I find the time to tinker...!
I've been loving the new design, except tonight I found a reason to switch back to the older one - the buy option in the new look doesn't have ANY options for buying/creating cards. DOH!
I just did 3 photo shoots this week for people doing holiday cards and I am so glad I didn't turn on my customers to the new look for reviewing everything.
I wonder how malta handles clients that he shot with, then the NEXT DAMN DAY they want photos. Stay up all night and lose sleep? The current system works, works well, I have 13k in sales to date and over 2000 comments I imagine for album slection. Listen to some jack johnson for a while you'll slow down
I've been loving the new design, except tonight I found a reason to switch back to the older one - the buy option in the new look doesn't have ANY options for buying/creating cards. DOH!
I just did 3 photo shoots this week for people doing holiday cards and I am so glad I didn't turn on my customers to the new look for reviewing everything.
Only you (as the site owner) can see the new design. Your customers can't see it yet. They'll just see it however you had it set up before. Log out & you should see that...
Only you (as the site owner) can see the new design. Your customers can't see it yet. They'll just see it however you had it set up before. Log out & you should see that...
If logging out doesn't do the trick, you might have to opt out of the new gallery style via the /darkroom page while logged in or use a different browser.
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Hey there, we are talking about the mobile Smugmug layout.
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Sorry, no. It's hardly off topic. We are talking about layout here. In bird terms for you, the golden goose would be a scheme that works in a desktop browser yet can easily be ported to mobile with minimal rework.
Someone pointed out a Zenfolio layout several posts back and I noted that not only did I like some elements in it, it worked well on mobile (I don't think as a mobile redirect). Mobile smartphones and tablets are the future; If we confine our feedback to the desktop design at hand and ignore ties to mobile, the design is likely to be moot and in the wastebasket in a few years (or less). http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2011/07/28-of-us-smartphone-owners-use-them-as-primary-net-connection.ars (trend is UPWARD)
/// www.affinityseattle.com /// <-yes, you want to check that out.
Content generators will always use large desktops or whatever device provides a large workspace. Consumers will all go tablets and smartphones. I'll put my life's savings on that bet. Have you not see teenagers these days?
The content presentation will shift to those device types, not simply a faithful render of a desktop browser. The input device (finger) is too different. Ok, Allen is right. This is somewhat off track now. I'm gonna bug out.
/// www.affinityseattle.com /// <-yes, you want to check that out.
Teenagers on the whole seem to want everything given to them or to steal it... many of them have no sense of intellectual property such as photographs and believe that if it is displayed on the web it is their god-given right to take and use it as they see fit. Not the demographic I'm shooting for with my sales, so maybe it's better if they can't see my work.
/sarcasm
Again, I think smartphone support is worthwhile but definitely as a much lower priority. The variations in screen sizes and browsers are far greater than in the desktop/laptop world and I for one prefer that SM not be distracted with that can of worms until they get the desktop presentation nailed.
Adobe announced today, November 10, 2011 - "Adobe Systems Inc halted development of its Flash Player for mobile browsers, surrendering to Apple Inc in a war over Web standards ....."
Will this lead to a further Flash decline in favor of HTML5?
If so, is Smugmug's new design moving to HTML5?
"You don't take a photograph, you make it." ~Ansel Adams
Phil
I wrote my idea, and it's here so I don't want to repeat thoughts.
Look e.g. :
http://marcintyszka.com/
The site is clean, and there are no huge thumbnails at the left as at our new design. There's one photo, user can click on it and there's next photo loading.
I want to say that it should be possibility to get clean, very simple design of site. OK, for some people new design is great, but there should be options to configure thumbnails at the left and all icons and keywords to make site clean and simple, and to present only the one picture or picture and arrows without need to click on any "Fullscreen" or "Slideshow" button.
Now, thanks to John Friend and his great Slideshow (HTML 5 ready) i created my site very clean with two arrows for move gallery foward and backward, and also keypress -> and <- to navigate.
So if smugmug prepared such gallery style it would be a revolution. ;-)
Best thanks 4 all to Smugmug ;-)
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We are using HTML5 in our uploader, and in our slideshows now as well. I expect we'll use it in more places, too.
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We'll get it fixed in the new style, can't say when though. Thanks.
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The new design is very nice, and I am eager to see it live for my customers. Do we have any ETA on that at this point? It has been five months since the introduction of it, and each day that I look at the current production version of the site I wish it would be updated.
Lets move forward and improve the design for the masses.
I have another "feature request".
right now, if I want to see Longtiude/latitude/Altitude in EXIF/IPTC, there is no way except for downloading the image, and doing right click in windows.
Is it possible, that the detailed field shows GPS related fields of the exif too?
That will be simply great!
This can later be enhanced and we can be given a feature. For example, search for pictures with Altitude>3000m
FB:https://www.facebook.com/TanveersPhotography
Site :http://www.tanveer.in
Blog :http://tsk1979.livejournal.com
Anyone have any news? To be honest I'm getting rather frustrated with the stagnancy of the SM site design. I've had my own site "redesign" on hold for months, waiting on SM's new designs and offerings, but with soccer season fast approaching (yes, sports photographer) I'm feeling the pressure to move on to another host.
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I am here: http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=55.941110,12.806682
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For what I pay annually for smugmug, I feel like SM should be further along with all this.
Andy, I think people's frustration comes from the total lack of any indication of timing on this - unless of course we've missed it. I know the response from you is that you don't give dates etc etc, but something to indicate more specifically how development is progressing would be good - please :-)
My renewal is just a month away now and I want be sure that I can continue for the next year exactly as in previous years without any loss of the way I like to customize. If I renew and you roll out the new designs, and I find they don't suit me, will I get a partial refund on my subscription?
I don't want to leave Smugmug, this will be my 5th anniversary.
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Caroline I encourage you to re-read post #2 and our CEO's comments there about customizing, and "using the old way" as well. Thanks! http://www.dgrin.com/showpost.php?p=1621380&postcount=2
We don't intend to harm folks that have customized.
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The fact that it takes so long for any update might just be a sign or indication that SmugMug is overhauling their initial new design from the bottom up... It's just my gut feeling but... It takes time to rewrite, reprogram and code everything from the bottom up. That's why I consider the recent silence to be extremely auspicious (absorbing the feedback and reprogramming it all cannot be done overnight -- really NOT). I think we indeed will be positively surprised with what they will present next!
Also consider that it's in pre-alpha and that it was a sneak peek... Most companies will never let you look at it in such an early phase. It's from the feedback in such an early phase that SM can learn lots about customer desires and program the new design accordingly. In case it was in Beta or a Release Candidate, it would have been a nightmare to rewrite everything to fulfill the customers' wishes...
I firmly stand by SM!
Luc
Being a tinkerer, I love the idea that you can have so much control over the look of your pages, but sadly, that means you have to tinker around a lot just to get up and running (unless you want the very plain 'I just put my photos on SmugMug' look).
And if this is not appropriate to this thread, I apologize, but I really hope the new SM includes an easy, user-friendly way to incorporate a Client Proofing/Viewing page where the customer may insert name and password to be taken directly to their private gallery.
Guess I'll join the rest in saying I'm really looking forward to the new design!
Lois
riesepix.com - Totally 'under construction' as I find the time to tinker...!
Lois
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I just did 3 photo shoots this week for people doing holiday cards and I am so glad I didn't turn on my customers to the new look for reviewing everything.
Malte
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