John, I'm not really sure what you mean...
The only difference in bulk creation vs single creation is the lack of description (and even that is somehow is taken care of in Auto Creation)...
So... what exactly is a "nicename"?
You now get a URL for a gallery that looks like this:
When creating a category, sub-category and gallery, you now get two names for each item. One displays on the actual web page for that entity. The other one is used in the URL. The "nicename" functionality has separated the actual name of the item from what shows in the URL so you can have a rich name in the page (with characters that might not be legal in a URL) and you have have a nice short and easy to remember short version in the URL.
Besides looking nicer and being easier to remember, it apparently also really helps search engine relevance having real words in the URL instead of just numbers. Categories sort of had this before (the category name appears in the URL, but only for the actual category link itself). Now, you get nice names for subcategores and galleries (instead of just numbers).
So, when you create a category, subcategory and gallery now, you get to specify both the regular name that will show on the web page and the "nice name" that will show in the URL.
The gist of this is bulk creation needs to think about allowing the bulk creator to not only specify the name, but also the nice name. If a nice name isn't specified, Smugmug will apparently auto-generate one as some derivative of the other name, but something you want more control than that.
When creating a category, sub-category and gallery, you now get two names for each item. One displays on the actual web page for that entity. The other one is used in the URL. The "nicename" functionality has separated the actual name of the item from what shows in the URL so you can have a rich name in the page (with characters that might not be legal in a URL) and you have have a nice short and easy to remember short version in the URL.
Besides looking nicer and being easier to remember, it apparently also really helps search engine relevance having real words in the URL instead of just numbers. Categories sort of had this before (the category name appears in the URL, but only for the actual category link itself). Now, you get nice names for subcategores and galleries (instead of just numbers).
So, when you create a category, subcategory and gallery now, you get to specify both the regular name that will show on the web page and the "nice name" that will show in the URL.
The gist of this is bulk creation needs to think about allowing the bulk creator to not only specify the name, but also the nice name. If a nice name isn't specified, Smugmug will apparently auto-generate one as some derivative of the other name, but something you want more control than that.
Ah, gotcha... Yeah, I can see that in the new API.
I should be able to do that some time soon.
Thanks for pointing that out!
What is Sync Upload?
Very pleased with the Pro version. But please explain the purpose/function of the Sync Upload option and Update Sync Tree. I haven't found anything on this at the Star*Explorer stie or How To index. Thanks.
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Very pleased with the Pro version. But please explain the purpose/function of the Sync Upload option and Update Sync Tree. I haven't found anything on this at the Star*Explorer stie or How To index. Thanks.
Thanks!
Those are somewhat alive remnants of my attempts to provide full sync functionality. One creates local folders structure that mimics your S*E hierarchy.
Sync upload mostly has to do with checking if the image was previously uploaded and what to do if it was.
Thanks!
Those are somewhat alive remnants of my attempts to provide full sync functionality. One creates local folders structure that mimics your S*E hierarchy.
Sync upload mostly has to do with checking if the image was previously uploaded and what to do if it was.
Now that is a great wish list item... full auto sync with specified local folders/files. Maybe someday...? Thanks for a great tool.
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Smugmug: Bayou Oaks Studio
Blog: Journey to the Light
"Serendipity...the faculty of making happy, unexpected discoveries by accident." .... Horace Walpole, 1754 (perhaps that 'lucky shot' wasn't really luck at all!)
New BETA version 1.0.0.236 uploaded
John, your wish is granted: you now have Nice Name support!
The way it workls is fairly simple: wherever you enter the new album name (single, multiple or renaming the autocreated ones) add '|' (pipe) and type that nice name you want, e.g.:
Regular album title|Nice name for URL
If you don't want nice name - don't do anything.
There is a gotcha: according to SM rules nice names can only contain alphanumerical characters and dashes. So everything you type that does not belong will be replaced with dashes. So, the example above is actually identical to the following:
Regular album title|Nice-name-for-URL
For Auto Created albums this logic works, too, but you have to engage "renaming" action - F2 (or context menu, or double click).
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There is another thing also. For the longest time I have been pretty stubborn about having "three way" album options to accomodate for the "account default" value. Finaly I decided it's too much for an average user and from now on all the album checkboxes can be either set or clear. No more "gray matter" anymore ... at least for now (hint, hint:-)
John, your wish is granted: you now have Nice Name support!
The way it workls is fairly simple: wherever you enter the new album name (single, multiple or renaming the autocreated ones) add '|' (pipe) and type that nice name you want, e.g.:
Regular album title|Nice name for URL
If you don't want nice name - don't do anything.
There is a gotcha: according to SM rules nice names can only contain alphanumerical characters and dashes. So everything you type that does not belong will be replaced with dashes. So, the example above is actually identical to the following:
Regular album title|Nice-name-for-URL
For Auto Created albums this logic works, too, but you have to engage "renaming" action - F2 (or context menu, or double click).
---
There is another thing also. For the longest time I have been pretty stubborn about having "three way" album options to accomodate for the "account default" value. Finaly I decided it's too much for an average user and from now on all the album checkboxes can be either set or clear. No more "gray matter" anymore ... at least for now (hint, hint:-)
Thanks!
Those are somewhat alive remnants of my attempts to provide full sync functionality. One creates local folders structure that mimics your S*E hierarchy.
Sync upload mostly has to do with checking if the image was previously uploaded and what to do if it was.
I was thinking I could do everything up to the upload step, but instead of attempting to do the upload myself, instead write a script that would sort the photos by EXIF tags/index into the appropriate hierarchy: \Kindergarten\Room 5\John Doe
If this matched what existed in SmugMug, would Star*Explorer be able to handle the upload correctly? Would I first have to sync down the hierarchy with S*E, and then run my "move" script?
Or does this functionality even exist at this point?
I know S*E would be a more reliable way to upload rather than relying on Perl plus say, the Java command-line uploader (because I'm not sure how well it handles failures, retries, etc.)
Thanks!
Those are somewhat alive remnants of my attempts to provide full sync functionality. One creates local folders structure that mimics your S*E hierarchy.
Sync upload mostly has to do with checking if the image was previously uploaded and what to do if it was.
Nik,
Are you still on delphi or have you switched to .net ?
We implemented something to integrate with MS Sync Framework last year, but at this point MS hasn't released a new version of SyncToy that has built-in support for SM.
If you were using .net, I believe that it would be pretty trivial to add sync support.
Are you still on delphi or have you switched to .net ?
We implemented something to integrate with MS Sync Framework last year, but at this point MS hasn't released a new version of SyncToy that has built-in support for SM.
If you were using .net, I believe that it would be pretty trivial to add sync support.
Cheers,
David
I'm still on Delphi :hide
The UE thing kinda stole the wind from under my sails
But I'm going there :-)
I was thinking I could do everything up to the upload step, but instead of attempting to do the upload myself, instead write a script that would sort the photos by EXIF tags/index into the appropriate hierarchy: \Kindergarten\Room 5\John Doe
If this matched what existed in SmugMug, would Star*Explorer be able to handle the upload correctly? Would I first have to sync down the hierarchy with S*E, and then run my "move" script?
Or does this functionality even exist at this point?
I know S*E would be a more reliable way to upload rather than relying on Perl plus say, the Java command-line uploader (because I'm not sure how well it handles failures, retries, etc.)
Thanks for your input!
Darryl,
creating different passwords for different galleries in bulk - this is not currently possible in S*E. I never thought of such a need.
However, auto creating albums technique should cover your needs with uploading into various albums quickly (provided passwords issue is somehow resolved). S*E should be able to decide which album is already there and which needs to be created. But you gotta play with it first to see if everything does match.
HTH
Darryl,
creating different passwords for different galleries in bulk - this is not currently possible in S*E. I never thought of such a need.
However, auto creating albums technique should cover your needs with uploading into various albums quickly (provided passwords issue is somehow resolved). S*E should be able to decide which album is already there and which needs to be created. But you gotta play with it first to see if everything does match.
HTH
Well, I was wondering if the galleries are already there (bulk created by my script), will S*E do the right thing if the hierarchy matches? For instance:
I create this Category > Subcategory > Album on Smugmug (with password): Kindergarten > Room 5 > John Doe
On local disk: c:\uploads\Kindergarten\Room 5\John Doe
Will S*E find this? What are the steps to actually try to get it to find the folder? Would I just drag-and-drop the Kindergarten folder into S*E and hope it matches properly? Do you just do a string comparison of Category\Subcategory\Album Name?
Hrm, let me see if I've ever installed S*E on this machine and I'll give it a try.
Well, I was wondering if the galleries are already there (bulk created by my script), will S*E do the right thing if the hierarchy matches? For instance:
I create this Category > Subcategory > Album on Smugmug (with password): Kindergarten > Room 5 > John Doe
On local disk: c:\uploads\Kindergarten\Room 5\John Doe
Will S*E find this? What are the steps to actually try to get it to find the folder? Would I just drag-and-drop the Kindergarten folder into S*E and hope it matches properly? Do you just do a string comparison of Category\Subcategory\Album Name?
Hrm, let me see if I've ever installed S*E on this machine and I'll give it a try.
--Darryl
Darryl,
bottomline: it should. It takes some experience to do it right. But *SE is smart. Play with it. It's always safe to try until you finally commit by pressing the Upload button (and even at that point you will have the Very Last Warning Dialog:-)
I want to move multiple galleries at once from one sub-category to another, is there any way to do this?
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The UE thing kinda stole the wind from under my sails
But I'm going there :-)
I am just getting my legs under me of the software I am responsible for at work going to .Net 3.5SP1. It is quite a change from Delphi.......and I am just in product management not in coding
I think I will wait until I get Snow Leopard and the VMware stable before going to try this new S*E but I am liking the features you are talking about.
I am just getting my legs under me of the software I am responsible for at work going to .Net 3.5SP1. It is quite a change from Delphi.......and I am just in product management not in coding
.
Hey, do you guys need a good programmer? We switched about 2mln lines of code from Delphi to C# over the last few years... Very fresh experience:-)
Cool! I really need to clean up the galleries in my site. Can you move single galleries in sub-categories or am I going to have to settle on how smugmug handles its gallery movements...
I signed up for the webinar!
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Cool! I really need to clean up the galleries in my site. Can you move single galleries in sub-categories or am I going to have to settle on how smugmug handles its gallery movements...
Careful what you wish for.
I am about to download the S*E and put it on my Virtual Machine (no more Boot Camp). I will let you know what I find out/experience.
!
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Very Cool, but I have a request and a slight bug issue
Howdy Nik-
So a situation that will make you chuckle. I am running S*E on my VMWare Fusion of Win XP Pro SP3 (2G assigned to it... blah blah) I have it saving the files directly to the Mac hard drive through the shared folders of VMWare. No translation like i used to have to do. But I have a request, and please forgive me if I get the names wrong...
Under the file menu when one selects "Download Images" there is a directory option. There is also an option for Directory Sync under the preferences. I think that the Sync is not wholly integrated yet, which is fine, however what had me a little confused is the fact that these are two different directories. Can they be made to be populated with the same directory by default? I realize that one might want to change the location, but I just realized that I am going to have to move all the files once they are downloaded.
On a slight bug issue, if the Windows Screen Saver comes on, it takes a few minute for the S*E window to populate again. I am not sure if this is virtualization or a true problem. The challenge was that I thought it was "hung" for a little while but I have learned to have patience....
So a situation that will make you chuckle. I am running S*E on my VMWare Fusion of Win XP Pro SP3 (2G assigned to it... blah blah) I have it saving the files directly to the Mac hard drive through the shared folders of VMWare. No translation like i used to have to do. But I have a request, and please forgive me if I get the names wrong...
Under the file menu when one selects "Download Images" there is a directory option. There is also an option for Directory Sync under the preferences. I think that the Sync is not wholly integrated yet, which is fine, however what had me a little confused is the fact that these are two different directories. Can they be made to be populated with the same directory by default? I realize that one might want to change the location, but I just realized that I am going to have to move all the files once they are downloaded.
On a slight bug issue, if the Windows Screen Saver comes on, it takes a few minute for the S*E window to populate again. I am not sure if this is virtualization or a true problem. The challenge was that I thought it was "hung" for a little while but I have learned to have patience....
Brad,
I'm not sure I understand (and this is possibly flavored Ukranian vodka talking:-)
...
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When creating a category, sub-category and gallery, you now get two names for each item. One displays on the actual web page for that entity. The other one is used in the URL. The "nicename" functionality has separated the actual name of the item from what shows in the URL so you can have a rich name in the page (with characters that might not be legal in a URL) and you have have a nice short and easy to remember short version in the URL.
Besides looking nicer and being easier to remember, it apparently also really helps search engine relevance having real words in the URL instead of just numbers. Categories sort of had this before (the category name appears in the URL, but only for the actual category link itself). Now, you get nice names for subcategores and galleries (instead of just numbers).
So, when you create a category, subcategory and gallery now, you get to specify both the regular name that will show on the web page and the "nice name" that will show in the URL.
The gist of this is bulk creation needs to think about allowing the bulk creator to not only specify the name, but also the nice name. If a nice name isn't specified, Smugmug will apparently auto-generate one as some derivative of the other name, but something you want more control than that.
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I should be able to do that some time soon.
Thanks for pointing that out!
Very pleased with the Pro version. But please explain the purpose/function of the Sync Upload option and Update Sync Tree. I haven't found anything on this at the Star*Explorer stie or How To index. Thanks.
Smugmug: Bayou Oaks Studio
Blog: Journey to the Light
"Serendipity...the faculty of making happy, unexpected discoveries by accident." .... Horace Walpole, 1754 (perhaps that 'lucky shot' wasn't really luck at all!)
Those are somewhat alive remnants of my attempts to provide full sync functionality. One creates local folders structure that mimics your S*E hierarchy.
Sync upload mostly has to do with checking if the image was previously uploaded and what to do if it was.
Smugmug: Bayou Oaks Studio
Blog: Journey to the Light
"Serendipity...the faculty of making happy, unexpected discoveries by accident." .... Horace Walpole, 1754 (perhaps that 'lucky shot' wasn't really luck at all!)
John, your wish is granted: you now have Nice Name support!
The way it workls is fairly simple: wherever you enter the new album name (single, multiple or renaming the autocreated ones) add '|' (pipe) and type that nice name you want, e.g.:
Regular album title|Nice name for URL
If you don't want nice name - don't do anything.
There is a gotcha: according to SM rules nice names can only contain alphanumerical characters and dashes. So everything you type that does not belong will be replaced with dashes. So, the example above is actually identical to the following:
Regular album title|Nice-name-for-URL
For Auto Created albums this logic works, too, but you have to engage "renaming" action - F2 (or context menu, or double click).
---
There is another thing also. For the longest time I have been pretty stubborn about having "three way" album options to accomodate for the "account default" value. Finaly I decided it's too much for an average user and from now on all the album checkboxes can be either set or clear. No more "gray matter" anymore ... at least for now (hint, hint:-)
HTH
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Nikolai -- I wonder if this functionality would help with my problem here with uploading many very small galleries (all with different passwords): http://dgrin.com/showthread.php?p=1203136#post1203136
I was thinking I could do everything up to the upload step, but instead of attempting to do the upload myself, instead write a script that would sort the photos by EXIF tags/index into the appropriate hierarchy: \Kindergarten\Room 5\John Doe
If this matched what existed in SmugMug, would Star*Explorer be able to handle the upload correctly? Would I first have to sync down the hierarchy with S*E, and then run my "move" script?
Or does this functionality even exist at this point?
I know S*E would be a more reliable way to upload rather than relying on Perl plus say, the Java command-line uploader (because I'm not sure how well it handles failures, retries, etc.)
Thanks for your input!
Nik,
Are you still on delphi or have you switched to .net ?
We implemented something to integrate with MS Sync Framework last year, but at this point MS hasn't released a new version of SyncToy that has built-in support for SM.
If you were using .net, I believe that it would be pretty trivial to add sync support.
Cheers,
David
SmugMug API Developer
My Photos
The UE thing kinda stole the wind from under my sails
But I'm going there :-)
Darryl,
creating different passwords for different galleries in bulk - this is not currently possible in S*E. I never thought of such a need.
However, auto creating albums technique should cover your needs with uploading into various albums quickly (provided passwords issue is somehow resolved). S*E should be able to decide which album is already there and which needs to be created. But you gotta play with it first to see if everything does match.
HTH
Well, I was wondering if the galleries are already there (bulk created by my script), will S*E do the right thing if the hierarchy matches? For instance:
I create this Category > Subcategory > Album on Smugmug (with password): Kindergarten > Room 5 > John Doe
On local disk: c:\uploads\Kindergarten\Room 5\John Doe
Will S*E find this? What are the steps to actually try to get it to find the folder? Would I just drag-and-drop the Kindergarten folder into S*E and hope it matches properly? Do you just do a string comparison of Category\Subcategory\Album Name?
Hrm, let me see if I've ever installed S*E on this machine and I'll give it a try.
--Darryl
bottomline: it should. It takes some experience to do it right. But *SE is smart. Play with it. It's always safe to try until you finally commit by pressing the Upload button (and even at that point you will have the Very Last Warning Dialog:-)
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- Seven upload threads = much faster uploads
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- Switched to JSON from RPC-XML (much less overhead = faster)
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I think I will wait until I get Snow Leopard and the VMware stable before going to try this new S*E but I am liking the features you are talking about.
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Cool! I really need to clean up the galleries in my site. Can you move single galleries in sub-categories or am I going to have to settle on how smugmug handles its gallery movements...
I signed up for the webinar!
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Yay!
Careful what you wish for.
I am about to download the S*E and put it on my Virtual Machine (no more Boot Camp). I will let you know what I find out/experience.
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Don't forget about the S*E webinar coming in less than two weeks (courtesy of SmugSchool)
I just upgraded to the latest (now out of beta) release, and I've been uploading photos from my latest travels.
Very nice! (And I liked Star*Explorer before, liking it even more now...)
Thanks!
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Howdy Nik-
So a situation that will make you chuckle. I am running S*E on my VMWare Fusion of Win XP Pro SP3 (2G assigned to it... blah blah) I have it saving the files directly to the Mac hard drive through the shared folders of VMWare. No translation like i used to have to do. But I have a request, and please forgive me if I get the names wrong...
Under the file menu when one selects "Download Images" there is a directory option. There is also an option for Directory Sync under the preferences. I think that the Sync is not wholly integrated yet, which is fine, however what had me a little confused is the fact that these are two different directories. Can they be made to be populated with the same directory by default? I realize that one might want to change the location, but I just realized that I am going to have to move all the files once they are downloaded.
On a slight bug issue, if the Windows Screen Saver comes on, it takes a few minute for the S*E window to populate again. I am not sure if this is virtualization or a true problem. The challenge was that I thought it was "hung" for a little while but I have learned to have patience....
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I'm not sure I understand (and this is possibly flavored Ukranian vodka talking:-)
...
Can you call me? I'll send you my cell # via PM...
During the last night's webinar I stumbled on a couple of bugs (duh). :hide
So I fixed them.
New: you can choose to download video now :-)