overheating macbooks?
Please let me preface this question by saying that I have a macbook specced and sitting in a basket on the apple site. I am not trolling or looking to upset anyone.
I have spent the last couple of days re-reading this thread and the links in it. There are reports on some websites that the macbooks get very hot. I was wondering if Patch and Wwax have noticed this?
I presume that because this (supposed) problem hasn't surfaced on this thread that everything is ok. I just want to be sure before I drop a substantial amount of money.
Please let me preface this question by saying that I have a macbook specced and sitting in a basket on the apple site. I am not trolling or looking to upset anyone.
I have spent the last couple of days re-reading this thread and the links in it. There are reports on some websites that the macbooks get very hot. I was wondering if Patch and Wwax have noticed this?
I presume that because this (supposed) problem hasn't surfaced on this thread that everything is ok. I just want to be sure before I drop a substantial amount of money.
Thanks,
Shay.
Mine gets hot, but the fan does not kick on high very often, only if I run PS or something that needs a lot of processor power. So I hope the heat won't be a problem and so far it gets hot, but works. I am happy with it and I also have an older Ti Powerbook that ran hot too, so I don't see it as a huge problem.
No I can wait for the bug to get worked out and download it in a couple weeks. I have used NeoOffice on my G5 and I am starting to like it more than MS Office. No install keys to enter either in NeoOffice.
No I can wait for the bug to get worked out and download it in a couple weeks. I have used NeoOffice on my G5 and I am starting to like it more than MS Office. No install keys to enter either in NeoOffice.
MacAddict had a write up on Office replacements this month...I guess some important questions (for others making this decision) are do you need an OFFICE replacement, a word processor, does it have to be compatible with MS, what kind of WP do you do (i.e. Pages is very cool for a more graphic approach), etc., etc...
I also think you can add the Applecare within the first year of purchase. $250 on a $1300 laptop, I will take the gamble and not purchase it, but if I see a lot of threads on them having problems in a few months I would probably add it, but I have faith that everything will work well.
I also think you can add the Applecare within the first year of purchase. $250 on a $1300 laptop, I will take the gamble and not purchase it, but if I see a lot of threads on them having problems in a few months I would probably add it, but I have faith that everything will work well.
MacAddict had a write up on Office replacements this month...I guess some important questions (for others making this decision) are do you need an OFFICE replacement, a word processor, does it have to be compatible with MS, what kind of WP do you do (i.e. Pages is very cool for a more graphic approach), etc., etc...
I use office for basic word processing, opening doc/xls flles from clients and simple spreadsheets, so NeoOffice should do everything and more than I need.
I don't do too many layouts, but I have access to PS, Illustrator, InDesign and GoLive, so I am covered for most of what I could need. The Apple apps are attractive to if I ever start making a lot more graphics and text pages.
I was at a friend's house and was having fun watching her ten year old nephew build is new web page in iweb on his ibook. He loves it. I cannot imagine how good young kids today will be with computers when they get to college.
Please let me preface this question by saying that I have a macbook specced and sitting in a basket on the apple site. I am not trolling or looking to upset anyone.
I have spent the last couple of days re-reading this thread and the links in it. There are reports on some websites that the macbooks get very hot. I was wondering if Patch and Wwax have noticed this?
I presume that because this (supposed) problem hasn't surfaced on this thread that everything is ok. I just want to be sure before I drop a substantial amount of money.
Thanks,
Shay.
My 17" MBP hasn't gotten all that hot. No hotter than the past 3 windows laptops I've had for sure. When it's really kicking, it's uncomfortable on exposed skin just like all my other lappys. But some jeans or a blanket solves that (I know, don't block the vent fan...) I hear 17"ers don't have as much of a heat problem since they have more surface area to dissapate the heat. Sounds reasonable to me I suppose.
FWIW...
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If I had more money invested in it (pro model), I probably would, but on the macbook it is 20% of the cost of a new one. It is a lot smaller percentage on a 17" MBP, about 12.5%. I would rather put the $250 towards my next Macbook, which wxwax told me I will be buying in two years. He forgot to factor in that I will probably get a 17" or 15" sooner than that. :uhoh
If I had more money invested in it (pro model), I probably would, but on the macbook it is 20% of the cost of a new one. It is a lot smaller percentage on a 17" MBP, about 12.5%. I would rather put the $250 towards my next Macbook, which wxwax told me I will be buying in two years. He forgot to factor in that I will probably get a 17" or 15" sooner than that. :uhoh
MacAddict had a write up on Office replacements this month...I guess some important questions (for others making this decision) are do you need an OFFICE replacement, a word processor, does it have to be compatible with MS, what kind of WP do you do (i.e. Pages is very cool for a more graphic approach), etc., etc...
I'd like to jump in on this office thread too. I'd like something super cheap with a word processor, spreadsheet, and database. MS compatibility is preferred but not required. The internets haven't been all that willing to share this information with me just yet
Y'all don't want to hear me, you just want to dance.
I'd like to jump in on this office thread too. I'd like something super cheap with a word processor, spreadsheet, and database. MS compatibility is preferred but not required. The internets haven't been all that willing to share this information with me just yet
As David posted, NeoOffice looks like the right fit. It is free and I really like it so far. I have opened xls files and saved back to xls and doc files, so I think for basic use it is compatible. If you were heavy on charts and graphics it might not be as good with the compatibility, but I think it would still work very well on its own. The price is right, give it a try. I plan to donate towards the cause once I test it on my Macbook. Hassle free installation.
As David posted, NeoOffice looks like the right fit. It is free and I really like it so far. I have opened xls files and saved back to xls and doc files, so I think for basic use it is compatible. If you were heavy on charts and graphics it might not be as good with the compatibility, but I think it would still work very well on its own. The price is right, give it a try. I plan to donate towards the cause once I test it on my Macbook. Hassle free installation.
It didn't look like it's ready for the intel macs yet. Did I not look closely enough?
Y'all don't want to hear me, you just want to dance.
It didn't look like it's ready for the intel macs yet. Did I not look closely enough?
No you are right, they are still in Alpha testing, so it would cost a little to try it now, but in a couple weeks it should be available for free. I think it will be worth the wait.
They get pretty warm even without something blocking the vent. When I pushed mine particularly hard with Aperture I saw the processor hit 87F (that's 188F). That's way hot. But most of the time it hovers in the mid to high 60s, warm but not ridiculous, and it's rare it breaks 80C even running Photoshop under Rosetta.
Even so the left underside gets pretty warm in normal use, don't rest it on bare skin.
I'm still quite happy with the purchase, warm running, glossy screen, odd keyboard and all. It is a better work machine than my old 12" powerbook, particularly since I can run Windows under Parallels and basically get two laptops for the price of one.
Someone mentioned skipping AppleCare. I wouldn't. We've had pretty good luck with the laptops but we've had issues too; my wife's 17" powerbook has been back for a new motherboard and latch sensor and the WiFi still doesn't work reliably (meaning sometimes it stops working completely, not merely poor reception). AppleCare was a good deal on that one. I probably wouldn't get it for most of the desktops (except the Quad, with its liquid cooling system) but the laptops are more likely to develop issues.
Even so the left underside gets pretty warm in normal use, don't rest it on bare skin.
I haven't measured the temp, but my Powerbook (non-Intel) and wintel laptop are also "pretty warm in normal use," and I make sure I don't rest them on bare skin either.
Please let me preface this question by saying that I have a macbook specced and sitting in a basket on the apple site. I am not trolling or looking to upset anyone.
I have spent the last couple of days re-reading this thread and the links in it. There are reports on some websites that the macbooks get very hot. I was wondering if Patch and Wwax have noticed this?
I presume that because this (supposed) problem hasn't surfaced on this thread that everything is ok. I just want to be sure before I drop a substantial amount of money.
Thanks,
Shay.
The bottom front left corner gets pretty warm.
It's not painful. But I do notice that it negates the AC in the living room - I don't cool off as well with the Macbook on my lap.
I'd say it's a bit warmer than my tiny Vaio, but it's not as if it feels like it's going to catch fire. Not that big a deal, to me.
MacAddict had a write up on Office replacements this month...I guess some important questions (for others making this decision) are do you need an OFFICE replacement, a word processor, does it have to be compatible with MS, what kind of WP do you do (i.e. Pages is very cool for a more graphic approach), etc., etc...
From my point of view, if it can't interact seamlessly with, and (equally importantly) look good on Office, then it's dead to me.
The world uses Office, so any substitute must be interchangeable not only in basic function but also in aesthetic capabilities.
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Now that I have an isight camera in the Macbook, does ichat only work via mac.com?
Can I call in with some ideas to make it better?
One, make the finder have the ability to save a workspace as you can in Photoshop.
Yep.
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Nah, I don't think so. .Mac is just using the AIM network, AFAIK.
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I better start my wishlist now.
Please let me preface this question by saying that I have a macbook specced and sitting in a basket on the apple site. I am not trolling or looking to upset anyone.
I have spent the last couple of days re-reading this thread and the links in it. There are reports on some websites that the macbooks get very hot. I was wondering if Patch and Wwax have noticed this?
I presume that because this (supposed) problem hasn't surfaced on this thread that everything is ok. I just want to be sure before I drop a substantial amount of money.
Thanks,
Shay.
Mine gets hot, but the fan does not kick on high very often, only if I run PS or something that needs a lot of processor power. So I hope the heat won't be a problem and so far it gets hot, but works.
No I can wait for the bug to get worked out and download it in a couple weeks. I have used NeoOffice on my G5 and I am starting to like it more than MS Office.
My vent was clear when I received it, glad it was not blocked like some were. :uhoh
Shay.
MacAddict had a write up on Office replacements this month...I guess some important questions (for others making this decision) are do you need an OFFICE replacement, a word processor, does it have to be compatible with MS, what kind of WP do you do (i.e. Pages is very cool for a more graphic approach), etc., etc...
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I also think you can add the Applecare within the first year of purchase. $250 on a $1300 laptop, I will take the gamble and not purchase it, but if I see a lot of threads on them having problems in a few months I would probably add it, but I have faith that everything will work well.
I always get AppleCare on lappys.
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I use office for basic word processing, opening doc/xls flles from clients and simple spreadsheets, so NeoOffice should do everything and more than I need.
I don't do too many layouts, but I have access to PS, Illustrator, InDesign and GoLive, so I am covered for most of what I could need. The Apple apps are attractive to if I ever start making a lot more graphics and text pages.
I was at a friend's house and was having fun watching her ten year old nephew build is new web page in iweb on his ibook. He loves it. I cannot imagine how good young kids today will be with computers when they get to college.
My 17" MBP hasn't gotten all that hot. No hotter than the past 3 windows laptops I've had for sure. When it's really kicking, it's uncomfortable on exposed skin just like all my other lappys. But some jeans or a blanket solves that (I know, don't block the vent fan...) I hear 17"ers don't have as much of a heat problem since they have more surface area to dissapate the heat. Sounds reasonable to me I suppose.
FWIW...
http://photos.mikelanestudios.com/
If I had more money invested in it (pro model), I probably would, but on the macbook it is 20% of the cost of a new one.
Or mebbe a MacBook Thin!
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I'd like to jump in on this office thread too. I'd like something super cheap with a word processor, spreadsheet, and database. MS compatibility is preferred but not required. The internets haven't been all that willing to share this information with me just yet
http://photos.mikelanestudios.com/
I want excellent wifi, 8x or better DVD burning, 64 bit proc and I will think up some more later.
As David posted, NeoOffice looks like the right fit. It is free and I really like it so far. I have opened xls files and saved back to xls and doc files, so I think for basic use it is compatible. If you were heavy on charts and graphics it might not be as good with the compatibility, but I think it would still work very well on its own. The price is right, give it a try. I plan to donate towards the cause once I test it on my Macbook. Hassle free installation.
It didn't look like it's ready for the intel macs yet. Did I not look closely enough?
http://photos.mikelanestudios.com/
No you are right, they are still in Alpha testing, so it would cost a little to try it now, but in a couple weeks it should be available for free. I think it will be worth the wait.
They get pretty warm even without something blocking the vent. When I pushed mine particularly hard with Aperture I saw the processor hit 87F (that's 188F). That's way hot. But most of the time it hovers in the mid to high 60s, warm but not ridiculous, and it's rare it breaks 80C even running Photoshop under Rosetta.
Even so the left underside gets pretty warm in normal use, don't rest it on bare skin.
I'm still quite happy with the purchase, warm running, glossy screen, odd keyboard and all. It is a better work machine than my old 12" powerbook, particularly since I can run Windows under Parallels and basically get two laptops for the price of one.
Someone mentioned skipping AppleCare. I wouldn't. We've had pretty good luck with the laptops but we've had issues too; my wife's 17" powerbook has been back for a new motherboard and latch sensor and the WiFi still doesn't work reliably (meaning sometimes it stops working completely, not merely poor reception). AppleCare was a good deal on that one. I probably wouldn't get it for most of the desktops (except the Quad, with its liquid cooling system) but the laptops are more likely to develop issues.
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my words, my "pro"pictures, my "fun" pictures, my videos.
Send me a .doc written with NeoOffice, I want to see what it looks like on a PC.
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It's not painful. But I do notice that it negates the AC in the living room - I don't cool off as well with the Macbook on my lap.
I'd say it's a bit warmer than my tiny Vaio, but it's not as if it feels like it's going to catch fire. Not that big a deal, to me.
Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam
http://www.mcneel.com/users/jb/foghorn/ill_shut_up.au
The world uses Office, so any substitute must be interchangeable not only in basic function but also in aesthetic capabilities.
Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam
http://www.mcneel.com/users/jb/foghorn/ill_shut_up.au
right'o, add in a larger 7200 rpm HD too.