Glad to hear that, since I've got a $90 brush on its way to me
Waxy, can you show us yer dust? Obviously it's dark outside, but you should be able to get the same effect by shooting something of consistent light color, like a wall at f22, then autolevels, and let's see it (just out of curiosity, of course...and no cheating with the clone brush :lynn)
Waxy, make him show his first
ian
Moderator Journeys/Sports/Big Picture :: Need some help with dgrin?
2 things. One, I'm at work and will be for another two hours. Long day. 2/ It's been over a month since I cleaned the sensor, so whatever shot I made wouldn't be a fair representation of the cleaning. I'd have to clean it first, then show you.
And obviously working hard too! I know, a sherpa's work is never done.
How about shooting a before and after? That should really show how effective the sensor brush is, right?
"Consulting the rules of composition before taking a photograph, is like consulting the laws of gravity before going for a walk." - Edward Weston "The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over."-Hunter S.Thompson
I already showed mine earlier in the thread, you troublemaker. :lynn
"Consulting the rules of composition before taking a photograph, is like consulting the laws of gravity before going for a walk." - Edward Weston "The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over."-Hunter S.Thompson
And obviously working hard too! I know, a sherpa's work is never done.
How about shooting a before and after? That should really show how effective the sensor brush is, right?
We'll see.
I'm wasting time waiting for my talent to get done with his show, so we can finish recording a track for a doc. A complete waste of two hours when I could be at home doing the same thing. Bummer is, I oughter be in bed by 11pm for tomorrow morning's workout. Be lucky to be home by midnight.
Sensor Brush(es) showed up!
So my cute, but expensive, Sensor Brushes showed up yesterday. There are two brushes...a thick "sensor brush" and a thin "SBF fan brush." The website does not seem to indicate which brush should be used for what. The qtime movies show both brushes being used on sensors.
I just sent off a WTF email to visibledust. Those of you well-versed in SensorBrush technology care to give this n00b a clue?
tia
"Consulting the rules of composition before taking a photograph, is like consulting the laws of gravity before going for a walk." - Edward Weston "The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over."-Hunter S.Thompson
So my cute, but expensive, Sensor Brushes showed up yesterday. There are two brushes...a thick "sensor brush" and a thin "SBF fan brush." The website does not seem to indicate which brush should be used for what. The qtime movies show both brushes being used on sensors.
I just sent off a WTF email to visibledust. Those of you well-versed in SensorBrush technology care to give this n00b a clue?
tia
Just got the following info from visibledust.com:
The fan shape is used where
A) there is only one or two spots on the sensor, kind of touch up brush when you are out of canned air or can not take canned air, so you recharge it with bulb blower
C) to clean the mirror and focusing optics in order for the sensor to stay clean longer due to less filaments and thinner handle fan shape sensor brush is ideal.
If you have anymore questions please let me know.
Thanks
Lisa
I've got to run off to a meeting, but I'll try it this afternoon and post the results.
"Consulting the rules of composition before taking a photograph, is like consulting the laws of gravity before going for a walk." - Edward Weston "The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over."-Hunter S.Thompson
The fan shape is used where
A) there is only one or two spots on the sensor, kind of touch up brush when you are out of canned air or can not take canned air, so you recharge it with bulb blower
C) to clean the mirror and focusing optics in order for the sensor to stay clean longer due to less filaments and thinner handle fan shape sensor brush is ideal.
If you have anymore questions please let me know.
Thanks
Lisa
I've got to run off to a meeting, but I'll try it this afternoon and post the results.
On your way home, don't forget the canned air.
Mine came yesterday as well. You'd think they'd enclose some directions
with the brush set. But you need to visit the site and grab the pdf file.
What's not so obvious is that you need to have canned air and you use it
for each swath of the sensor: 1) Spray the brush. Step 2) brush the sensor.
Step 3) repeat as required to clean the sensor.
I need to go to Fry's for something else so I guess I'll get the canned air
at the same time.
Ian
Moderator Journeys/Sports/Big Picture :: Need some help with dgrin?
Mine came yesterday as well. You'd think they'd enclose some directions
with the brush set. But you need to visit the site and grab the pdf file.
What's not so obvious is that you need to have canned air and you use it
for each swath of the sensor: 1) Spray the brush. Step 2) brush the sensor.
Step 3) repeat as required to clean the sensor.
I need to go to Fry's for something else so I guess I'll get the canned air
at the same time.
Ian
I've got several cans. Want one?
I haven't had a chance to work on it yet...I'll try tonight if the kids stop bugging me about making them some shells and cheese.
"Consulting the rules of composition before taking a photograph, is like consulting the laws of gravity before going for a walk." - Edward Weston "The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over."-Hunter S.Thompson
Mine came yesterday as well. You'd think they'd enclose some directions
with the brush set. But you need to visit the site and grab the pdf file.
What's not so obvious is that you need to have canned air and you use it
for each swath of the sensor: 1) Spray the brush. Step 2) brush the sensor.
Step 3) repeat as required to clean the sensor.
I need to go to Fry's for something else so I guess I'll get the canned air
at the same time.
Ian
The first and only time I did it, I used an entire can of air! I ordered too-small brushes, had to make many swipes. And I was paranoid, so I blasted the heck out of the brush with the canned air. I ordered a larger brush lat week, should be able to clean the sensor in one or two passes. That would be dandy and quick.
I just tried it again with similar results. Did I just flush $90? :bluduh
"Consulting the rules of composition before taking a photograph, is like consulting the laws of gravity before going for a walk." - Edward Weston "The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over."-Hunter S.Thompson
Thank ewe. I'm now much more comfortable with my decision to go the other way. My kit from Copper Hill showed up last week.
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John MuellerRegistered UsersPosts: 2,555Major grins
edited February 16, 2005
Fish,how many passes did you do? If this is the 1st time you have cleaned the sensor,it may take several tries.Also if its not doing the job,you may have to do the wet method.Then use the brush on a regular schedule.
I had a set of brushes before I got my new cam and used them 2 weeks after use.
I have 3 specks that they wont pick up and do not see them until I use auto level @ f22
I dont use auto levels on my images @ f22 so I live with the 3 spots.
BTW,I do see improvement on the images.
Fish,how many passes did you do? If this is the 1st time you have cleaned the sensor,it may take several tries.Also if its not doing the job,you may have to do the wet method.Then use the brush on a regular schedule.
I had a set of brushes before I got my new cam and used them 2 weeks after use.
I have 3 specks that they wont pick up and do not see them until I use auto level @ f22
I dont use auto levels on my images @ f22 so I live with the 3 spots.
BTW,I do see improvement on the images.
That sounds reasonable. The first cleaning could be the most challenging, if there are imbedded motes. Once past that problem, regular cleaning with a brush might be the simplest solution. I didn't save my last before/after images. I will this time. Should be interesting.
If this is the 1st time you have cleaned the sensor,it may take several tries.Also if its not doing the job,you may have to do the wet method.Then use the brush on a regular schedule.
That's what I was thinking...dang, I shouldn't have sneezed into the camera. :thwak
I sent an email off to Lisa, the friendly tech support person at visibledust.com and here's her response:
HI David
The images look like you have liquid spots on your sensor that the brushes canot remove by themselves. You will need to do a wet cleaning so I would recommend that you order the Sensor Clean and Chamber Clean. Here are the links for you to take a look at as to what they can do. http://www.visibledust.com/sensorclean.htm http://www.visibledust.com/chamberclean.htm
If you have any more questions please let me know.
Thanks
Lisa
Well, I don't have the patience to wait another week for their wet stuff to show up, so I bought a box of Sensor Swabs and Eclipse fluid at K&S (along with a Domke bag...geez...I just can't stop!). Here's the sensor after going through three swabs. Pretty damn good at this point, and I think I'll just live with this. I'll use the brush regularly (boy, it sure works great on the mirror), and do the wet thing once in awhile. I'm satisfied at this point.
"Consulting the rules of composition before taking a photograph, is like consulting the laws of gravity before going for a walk." - Edward Weston "The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over."-Hunter S.Thompson
Just to prevent the n00bies from getting their knickers in a twist over this, here's the after shot prior to autolevels (remember...this is at f22):
"Consulting the rules of composition before taking a photograph, is like consulting the laws of gravity before going for a walk." - Edward Weston "The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over."-Hunter S.Thompson
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John MuellerRegistered UsersPosts: 2,555Major grins
edited February 16, 2005
Great. I have their swabs and sensor clean also and I wouldnt recommend that.Swab with eclipse is the best.
Great. I have their swabs and sensor clean also and I wouldnt recommend that.Swab with eclipse is the best.
Thanks MHJS. I guess it's just an unavoidable consequence of swapping lenses, and I didn't buy a dSLR to just leave one lens on it.
"Consulting the rules of composition before taking a photograph, is like consulting the laws of gravity before going for a walk." - Edward Weston "The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over."-Hunter S.Thompson
Home with a bum tendon so I figured I would take the time to clean the 20D up a little. This is what it looked like after I tried just blowing it off with a rocket bulb.
Did realize how funky it was. It took a while to get used to the sensorswipe, but it worked out OK - still getting used to the swipe and the white knuckled experience of messing around with the sensor, but after the first try, not bad.
There is only one little spot that I can still detect, but for now, this is as good as it gets - heck, I've been shooting with it dirty all along and didn't even realize it until I stopped it down and took a test shot.
Cute, my heart started beating hard when I got the email notification..... I would have expected that from the finned one, but not you - good one
Don't get too happy, phil. Open your original sky shot (assuming you shot it at minimum aperture) in photoshop and do an autolevels adjustment on it. I think you'll find dark spots all over it. Go check and post the results. :
"Consulting the rules of composition before taking a photograph, is like consulting the laws of gravity before going for a walk." - Edward Weston "The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over."-Hunter S.Thompson
And yes, ain't that Sid is an evil bastige :smooch
Yes, he is. So ya got that auto-level shot ready to post yet?
"Consulting the rules of composition before taking a photograph, is like consulting the laws of gravity before going for a walk." - Edward Weston "The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over."-Hunter S.Thompson
Sensor Cleaning
I found this thread very enlightening. It was a complication with my new dSLR that I did not expect. Film constantly cycles, the sensor obviously does not!
I purchased the Visibledust Econo Kit and some canned air and followed the easy instructions from the web site. I checked every 2 swipes and there was definite improvement each time. It took about 6 swipes total for me to be satisfied. But the gunk that was on the camera from picture #1 (and all the rest) is now gone!
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ian
How about shooting a before and after? That should really show how effective the sensor brush is, right?
"The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over."-Hunter S.Thompson
I already showed mine earlier in the thread, you troublemaker. :lynn
"The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over."-Hunter S.Thompson
I'm wasting time waiting for my talent to get done with his show, so we can finish recording a track for a doc. A complete waste of two hours when I could be at home doing the same thing.
Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam
http://www.mcneel.com/users/jb/foghorn/ill_shut_up.au
So my cute, but expensive, Sensor Brushes showed up yesterday. There are two brushes...a thick "sensor brush" and a thin "SBF fan brush." The website does not seem to indicate which brush should be used for what. The qtime movies show both brushes being used on sensors.
I just sent off a WTF email to visibledust. Those of you well-versed in SensorBrush technology care to give this n00b a clue?
tia
"The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over."-Hunter S.Thompson
A) there is only one or two spots on the sensor, kind of touch up brush
C) to clean the mirror and focusing optics in order for the sensor to stay clean longer due to less filaments and thinner handle fan shape sensor brush is ideal.
If you have anymore questions please let me know.
Thanks
Lisa
"The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over."-Hunter S.Thompson
Mine came yesterday as well. You'd think they'd enclose some directions
with the brush set. But you need to visit the site and grab the pdf file.
What's not so obvious is that you need to have canned air and you use it
for each swath of the sensor: 1) Spray the brush. Step 2) brush the sensor.
Step 3) repeat as required to clean the sensor.
I need to go to Fry's for something else so I guess I'll get the canned air
at the same time.
Ian
I've got several cans. Want one?
I haven't had a chance to work on it yet...I'll try tonight if the kids stop bugging me about making them some shells and cheese.
"The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over."-Hunter S.Thompson
Ian
Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam
http://www.mcneel.com/users/jb/foghorn/ill_shut_up.au
after:
:bash
I just tried it again with similar results. Did I just flush $90? :bluduh
"The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over."-Hunter S.Thompson
I had a set of brushes before I got my new cam and used them 2 weeks after use.
I have 3 specks that they wont pick up and do not see them until I use auto level @ f22
I dont use auto levels on my images @ f22 so I live with the 3 spots.
BTW,I do see improvement on the images.
Cincinnati Smug Leader
That sounds reasonable. The first cleaning could be the most challenging, if there are imbedded motes. Once past that problem, regular cleaning with a brush might be the simplest solution. I didn't save my last before/after images. I will this time. Should be interesting.
Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam
http://www.mcneel.com/users/jb/foghorn/ill_shut_up.au
That's what I was thinking...dang, I shouldn't have sneezed into the camera. :thwak
I sent an email off to Lisa, the friendly tech support person at visibledust.com and here's her response:
The images look like you have liquid spots on your sensor that the brushes canot remove by themselves. You will need to do a wet cleaning so I would recommend that you order the Sensor Clean and Chamber Clean. Here are the links for you to take a look at as to what they can do.
http://www.visibledust.com/sensorclean.htm
http://www.visibledust.com/chamberclean.htm
If you have any more questions please let me know.
Thanks
Lisa
"The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over."-Hunter S.Thompson
"The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over."-Hunter S.Thompson
Cincinnati Smug Leader
"The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over."-Hunter S.Thompson
Did realize how funky it was. It took a while to get used to the sensorswipe, but it worked out OK - still getting used to the swipe and the white knuckled experience of messing around with the sensor, but after the first try, not bad.
There is only one little spot that I can still detect, but for now, this is as good as it gets - heck, I've been shooting with it dirty all along and didn't even realize it until I stopped it down and took a test shot.
Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam
http://www.mcneel.com/users/jb/foghorn/ill_shut_up.au
"The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over."-Hunter S.Thompson
Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam
http://www.mcneel.com/users/jb/foghorn/ill_shut_up.au
I stay away from the blower! In the past, it has put dust on the view screen and that is not so easy to remove.
Cincinnati Smug Leader
And yes, ain't that Sid is an evil bastige :smooch
Yes, he is. So ya got that auto-level shot ready to post yet?
"The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over."-Hunter S.Thompson
I found this thread very enlightening. It was a complication with my new dSLR that I did not expect. Film constantly cycles, the sensor obviously does not!
I purchased the Visibledust Econo Kit and some canned air and followed the easy instructions from the web site. I checked every 2 swipes and there was definite improvement each time. It took about 6 swipes total for me to be satisfied. But the gunk that was on the camera from picture #1 (and all the rest) is now gone!
Chris