That was cool, great web site. After doing the Copper Hill thing, I really think a brush will get most of the standard stuff. I balked at paying $100 for a set of brushes, but the Cotman 777 I can get locally for $11 and for the extra money saved I am more than happy to wash the brush a couple times to get the coating off
I was out in sub zero weather shooting landscapes and I noticed a spot that wouldn't budge, probably from condensation. The wet method was still the only way it would go away.
lots o spots
Afraid I had spots on my shots, I did what you said. I went immediately outside, set f/22 in aperture preferred mode, raised the camera to my eye and looked straight up and took a few shots of the sky.
I didn't need to go to photoshop to see them. There were spots all over the image. In fact, there were spots even on the lens, the camera, and my glasses.
I guess I have to wait until it is not raining and go do it again.
OK, my sensor needs cleaning. The manual says to use nothing but a bulb, no brush, blowing the air in. No canned air. This is the popular Canon 20D. It says not to put ANYTHING past the place where the lens goes, just to blow the air in from the bulb.
I read about half the pages here, and it doesn't sound like the method in my manual is going to do anything except make a bunch of techs laugh.
I owned the Rebel a year and didn't have the trouble with dust that I am having now after 2 months.
Scared to clean it and scared not to, too broke to have it done or to buy expensive "brushes" that I am not supposed to use anyway. I would just clone over the dust, but it doesn't seem to show up until I post the shots, then it shows up big time, everyone notices it, even I can see it before it is through.
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Ginger,go ahead and try a blower.It may help.Face the cam down and blow up into it.It could dislodge the bigger stuff.
I was scared to death the first time I tried the other methods posted here.In fact I still get nervous which ever way I do it.
I found that the easiest way for me was the brush method.
New cameras have fleck, its tiny flakes of the new parts wearing in.Blowing may get rid of it.
Another thing I found out is changing lenses.I will not do this outside and I do it as quick as possible with the lens off,holding the cam downward.
Also check your back lens element.I been using a blower on those as well.I have seen some big stuff come off.
blow first, then copperhill method
i've been using a blower first, then the copperhill method.
here's a little animation that shows the results
as you can see, the blower takes care of most of the dust. one quick pass with the sensorswipe, and i was done. note that i don't get crazy, you can see that there's still some tiny bits of dust on the lower right corner - you'll never, ever see this on screen or in print - remember, when you test shoot, you're shooting at f/22 against a sky so you can see what's there! in real life, at a resonable aperture, those last little mots will never be seen so i don't worry 'bout 'em
When do you decide that it is cleaning time? I started to notice some spots when shooting product over a white background, I tried the blower bulb route and amazingly the big ones went away. Now I am wondering if I should still clean copperhill route? Should I clean this?
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edited May 5, 2005
The way I look at it is if I dont see it on the images I shoot ,no need to clean it.
Why take risks?
I dont use auto levels on my images at f22 or any for that matter.
That is just a guage to see how dirty it is.
If I see them at f8 I clean:D
Well I went to the store tonight and bout a sensor cleaning kit. :uhoh all it did was rearange it and the sensor swabs that are listed on the website are all sold out. I have the eclipse now I just have to find a good sensor swab cause the ones in the kit sucked. Oh well I tried, I didn't break it, and I can clean it when I can get some good swabs.
If you try this make sure you have good swabs. I blew it out first with some air and that didn't do too much.
If you get the copperhill kit, or the SensorSwip by it's self, do NOT carry it in carry-on when you fly. Security in Manila was not amused last week, it seems that the SensorSwip looks like a knife in X-Ray, they tried to tear it apart to be sure there was not a blade hidden in it. Put it in your check-in.
If you get the copperhill kit, or the SensorSwip by it's self, do NOT carry it in carry-on when you fly. Security in Manila was not amused last week, it seems that the SensorSwip looks like a knife in X-Ray, they tried to tear it apart to be sure there was not a blade hidden in it. Put it in your check-in.
i agree with waxilodeon, the blower blows. get some eclipse, and a spatula and wipes from copperhill, and do it proper. usually one or two swipes is all it takes.
and no more fugly!
I have used a baby snot sucker (little bulb blower) ever since my first DSLR, and have never had any problems. I have never had to touch a sensor, and the occasional dust bunny comes right off with the bulb blower, which I bought at the drug store for about $5. I do occasionally combine it with my vacuum cleaner hose from an inch or two away, just to help get rid of the dust, rather than leave it in the camera.
I have used a baby snot sucker (little bulb blower) ever since my first DSLR, and have never had any problems. I have never had to touch a sensor, and the occasional dust bunny comes right off with the bulb blower, which I bought at the drug store for about $5.
I do occasionally combine it with my vacuum cleaner hose from an inch or two away, just to help get rid of the dust, rather than leave it in the camera.
Vaccuum assist. Good tip #2
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If you use any blower, clean it first with dishwashing detergent and several rinses to get any release powder out of it. (Dry it thoroughly before using it, of course.) When blower bulbs are formed in the factory, they use a mold to form the shape of the bulb. The mold is coated with either a silicone release compound or a dry release powder. That powder can be a pain if blown unintentionally into a camera.
One fellow on the DPReview forums had terrible problems with the powder evidently contaminating the sensor.
If you use any blower, clean it first with dishwashing detergent and several rinses to get any release powder out of it. (Dry it thoroughly before using it, of course.) When blower bulbs are formed in the factory, they use a mold to form the shape of the bulb. The mold is coated with either a silicone release compound or a dry release powder. That powder can be a pain if blown unintentionally into a camera.
One fellow on the DPReview forums had terrible problems with the powder evidently contaminating the sensor.
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Thanks ziggy...i got my giotto rocket blower in the mail last night & was about an hour from doing the job. I will recon & re-deploy.
I have used a baby snot sucker (little bulb blower) ever since my first DSLR, and have never had any problems. I have never had to touch a sensor, and the occasional dust bunny comes right off with the bulb blower, which I bought at the drug store for about $5. I do occasionally combine it with my vacuum cleaner hose from an inch or two away, just to help get rid of the dust, rather than leave it in the camera.
sorry but i must disagree with you, dpfranz. folks have reported horror stories about this. and it makes sense. do not use a vacuum of any kind, big, small, whatever, on your sensor. to much chance for user-error here
The way I look at it is if I dont see it on the images I shoot ,no need to clean it.
Why take risks?
I dont use auto levels on my images at f22 or any for that matter.
That is just a guage to see how dirty it is.
If I see them at f8 I clean:D
If you get the copperhill kit, or the SensorSwip by it's self, do NOT carry it in carry-on when you fly. Security in Manila was not amused last week, it seems that the SensorSwip looks like a knife in X-Ray, they tried to tear it apart to be sure there was not a blade hidden in it. Put it in your check-in.
James.
And the eclipse fluid is pure methanol, you aren't ment to take that on the plane either, it turns you into a radical nut job or something.
so, dslr owners, have *you* cleaned your sensor lately?
So.. I was feeling brave and I cleaned my sensor... all excited looked through my lens and the motts are all still there so.. I cleaned it AGAIN! and they are still there... :uhoh sloshed some on the lens and stuff but where are these little crittors...
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I was out in sub zero weather shooting landscapes and I noticed a spot that wouldn't budge, probably from condensation. The wet method was still the only way it would go away.
Afraid I had spots on my shots, I did what you said. I went immediately outside, set f/22 in aperture preferred mode, raised the camera to my eye and looked straight up and took a few shots of the sky.
I didn't need to go to photoshop to see them. There were spots all over the image. In fact, there were spots even on the lens, the camera, and my glasses.
I guess I have to wait until it is not raining and go do it again.
In all of the directions to clean the sensor, the first step is to "lock up the mirror"
Well, I have an unhacked 300D that doesn't have mirror lock up.
What do I do?
dave.
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You should have a setting for sensor clean on your cam.That will lock the mirror up and open the shutter.
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I read about half the pages here, and it doesn't sound like the method in my manual is going to do anything except make a bunch of techs laugh.
I owned the Rebel a year and didn't have the trouble with dust that I am having now after 2 months.
Scared to clean it and scared not to, too broke to have it done or to buy expensive "brushes" that I am not supposed to use anyway. I would just clone over the dust, but it doesn't seem to show up until I post the shots, then it shows up big time, everyone notices it, even I can see it before it is through.
ginger
I was scared to death the first time I tried the other methods posted here.In fact I still get nervous which ever way I do it.
I found that the easiest way for me was the brush method.
New cameras have fleck, its tiny flakes of the new parts wearing in.Blowing may get rid of it.
Another thing I found out is changing lenses.I will not do this outside and I do it as quick as possible with the lens off,holding the cam downward.
Also check your back lens element.I been using a blower on those as well.I have seen some big stuff come off.
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i've been using a blower first, then the copperhill method.
here's a little animation that shows the results
as you can see, the blower takes care of most of the dust. one quick pass with the sensorswipe, and i was done. note that i don't get crazy, you can see that there's still some tiny bits of dust on the lower right corner - you'll never, ever see this on screen or in print - remember, when you test shoot, you're shooting at f/22 against a sky so you can see what's there! in real life, at a resonable aperture, those last little mots will never be seen so i don't worry 'bout 'em
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Sky, F22 auto leveled in Nikon Editor
Same shot not auto leveled for those like me who didn't understand at first why
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Why take risks?
I dont use auto levels on my images at f22 or any for that matter.
That is just a guage to see how dirty it is.
If I see them at f8 I clean:D
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If you try this make sure you have good swabs. I blew it out first with some air and that didn't do too much.
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If you get the copperhill kit, or the SensorSwip by it's self, do NOT carry it in carry-on when you fly. Security in Manila was not amused last week, it seems that the SensorSwip looks like a knife in X-Ray, they tried to tear it apart to be sure there was not a blade hidden in it. Put it in your check-in.
James.
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I have used a baby snot sucker (little bulb blower) ever since my first DSLR, and have never had any problems. I have never had to touch a sensor, and the occasional dust bunny comes right off with the bulb blower, which I bought at the drug store for about $5. I do occasionally combine it with my vacuum cleaner hose from an inch or two away, just to help get rid of the dust, rather than leave it in the camera.
Drug store, eh? Good tip #1
Vaccuum assist. Good tip #2
"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take" - Wayne Gretzky
Drug store bulb blower:
If you use any blower, clean it first with dishwashing detergent and several rinses to get any release powder out of it. (Dry it thoroughly before using it, of course.) When blower bulbs are formed in the factory, they use a mold to form the shape of the bulb. The mold is coated with either a silicone release compound or a dry release powder. That powder can be a pain if blown unintentionally into a camera.
One fellow on the DPReview forums had terrible problems with the powder evidently contaminating the sensor.
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For me, they both sucked.
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sorry but i must disagree with you, dpfranz. folks have reported horror stories about this. and it makes sense. do not use a vacuum of any kind, big, small, whatever, on your sensor. to much chance for user-error here
btw, a baby snot blower? :nono why spend about $1000 on a camera body and then scrimp a few bucks on a blower? get the real thing... a giottos rocket blower for a few seconds (cost, about {url=http://www.pricegrabber.com/search_getprod.php?masterid=772203&search=giottos+rocket+blower]$12 usd[/url] to get any big bunnies out... then swabs. i use the copperhill method.
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'lock up and clean up', that is!