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  • lynnmalynnma Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 5,208 Major grins
    edited August 1, 2004
    pathfinder wrote:
    OK Here is a simple choice for the viewers - which is better Blue or Orange? Or am I wasting my time with either of them?



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    I most definitely like the orange. Can't say why, maybe I think its a bit more abstract. I like the image very much.. specially in the orange. The blue was a bit too.... sky blue for me.
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  • snapapplesnapapple Registered Users Posts: 2,093 Major grins
    edited August 1, 2004
    I'm sorry if I overreacted...
    My feelings are still my feelings. :cry I have been working very hard on this challenge. No one liked my buildings. Even after many attempts at cropping, black and white etc. Other people were posting flowers. So I thought fruit and leaves also fit the criteria. I suppose Andy was telling all of us we were off base there. As you said, better to find out now than later. Next time, if there is a next time, I'll make sure my photos "scream out" with the theme.

    Thank you Sid, Lynn, Ginnette for your honest comments.

    Sid, I think I was able to improve the persimmons by darkening the background and highlighting the fruit. I will reserve that photo for some thread on fruit and flowers or something. Perhaps I will submit it on another site. And the fig as well. I still like my photos and I am proud of them. I may even frame them. :) smile

    Meanwhile, I will devote my attentions to my "day job" this week. I may be overtired from spending all my free time on photography.
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  • lynnmalynnma Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 5,208 Major grins
    edited August 1, 2004
    snapapple wrote:
    My feelings are still my feelings. :cry I have been working very hard on this challenge. No one liked my buildings. Even after many attempts at cropping, black and white etc. Other people were posting flowers. So I thought fruit and leaves also fit the criteria. I suppose Andy was telling all of us we were off base there. As you said, better to find out now than later. Next time, if there is a next time, I'll make sure my photos "scream out" with the theme.

    Thank you Sid, Lynn, Ginnette for your honest comments.

    Sid, I think I was able to improve the persimmons by darkening the background and highlighting the fruit. I will reserve that photo for some thread on fruit and flowers or something. Perhaps I will submit it on another site. And the fig as well. I still like my photos and I am proud of them. I may even frame them. :) smile

    Meanwhile, I will devote my attentions to my "day job" this week. I may be overtired from spending all my free time on photography.
    Snappy you've been through a lot.. go easy on yourself . Your pictures are beautiful and I really mean that. I do think that some focuses swing more to the challenge than others and I don't think you should worry too much about that. Just take what you like and learn from others when you can and post what you want to post. Even if the critiques are not that good. If you like it thats really all that counts. You say you still like your photos and are proud of them.. no one is saying they don't like your shots, they are wow shots. Your shot of the garden bench is one of my all time favorites.. it just happens to "speak to me" whether or not it fits the challenge criteria or not.
    Go with your gut Snappy and relax.. you certainly don't need added stress right now.iloveyou.gif
    Lynn
  • ruttrutt Registered Users Posts: 6,511 Major grins
    edited August 1, 2004
    Organic curves, synthetic lines
    OK, OK, OK. Curves and lines. Nothing but curves and lines. Could I paint a clearer picture?

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    If not now, when?
  • lynnmalynnma Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 5,208 Major grins
    edited August 1, 2004
    rutt wrote:
    OK, OK, OK. Curves and lines. Nothing but curves and lines. Could I paint a clearer picture?
    :roll RUTT.. you dog you!! Hey! its lines and curves... for sure :D
  • cmr164cmr164 Registered Users Posts: 1,542 Major grins
    edited August 1, 2004
    rutt wrote:
    OK, OK, OK. Curves and lines. Nothing but curves and lines. Could I paint a clearer picture?

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    Did your wife see this pic? rolleyes1.gif
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  • pathfinderpathfinder Super Moderators Posts: 14,708 moderator
    edited August 1, 2004
    rutt wrote:
    OK, OK, OK. Curves and lines. Nothing but curves and lines. Could I paint a clearer picture?

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    clap.gif You naughty boy!! Careful, you could get yourself in trouble and not with Andy!!clap.gifclap.gif Lines and curves!! - I made a comment earlier about Edward Weston's Green Pepper shots .... I am surprised we haven't seen cleavage before now..... Nothing sells like se........x:roll

    :tuesday And for a little critical evaluation....the background could be darker to focus attention on the foreground subject of interest, and perhaps a little G Blur of the background also. Need to keep the viewers eye centered so to speak.friday.gif Maybe you could have waited until she raised her arm to remove her elbow which I find a distracting element.lol3.giflol3.gif
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  • ruttrutt Registered Users Posts: 6,511 Major grins
    edited August 1, 2004
    pathfinder wrote:
    And for a little critical evaluation....the background could be darker to focus attention on the foreground subject of interest, and perhaps a little G Blur of the background also. Need to keep the viewers eye centered so to speak.friday.gif Maybe you could have waited until she raised her arm to remove her elbow which I find a distracting element.lol3.giflol3.gif
    Yes, I was planing to do some PS work on this, but I didn't want to get scooped. It's kind of an obvious idea. I'd already thought of it and then Ginger suggested it in an email. So I rushed to press. Now I'll probably try to improve it. I also have tons more of the same model (want to see?). I just met her on the beach and she was flattered I wanted to shoot her and apparently has been an model for fun before. But I've been so frustrated, and I needed to show that I could get on message.
    If not now, when?
  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited August 1, 2004
    snapapple - tree drops from last challenge
    i'm sure you've seen my comments on that image. go out and sell it! it's a fantastic shot.

    keep on keepin' on!
  • MitchellMitchell Registered Users Posts: 3,503 Major grins
    edited August 1, 2004
    Rainy day here in Florida ruined my shooting. Then I saw these. Any comments?


    Mitch
  • MitchellMitchell Registered Users Posts: 3,503 Major grins
    edited August 1, 2004
  • wxwaxwxwax Registered Users Posts: 15,471 Major grins
    edited August 1, 2004
    rutt wrote:
    OK, OK, OK. Curves and lines. Nothing but curves and lines. Could I paint a clearer picture?

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    Very cheeky!
    Sid.
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  • AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited August 1, 2004
    wxwax wrote:
    Very cheeky!

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  • wxwaxwxwax Registered Users Posts: 15,471 Major grins
    edited August 1, 2004
    snapapple wrote:
    My feelings are still my feelings. :cry I have been working very hard on this challenge....
    Meanwhile, I will devote my attentions to my "day job" this week. I may be overtired from spending all my free time on photography.

    Good idea, take a break. Then come back and post some more! You've taken and posted some lovely shots here, I really would like to see more of them. Again, what Ginger said... you do this to satisfy your own muse. nod.gif
    Sid.
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  • SandySandy Registered Users Posts: 762 Major grins
    edited August 1, 2004
    I believe it's time to jump into the forum. I went to Santa Fe last weekend and returned to find my dog very ill. Now with that under control I will post some pics and add some comments.

    LANDING

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  • ginger_55ginger_55 Registered Users Posts: 8,416 Major grins
    edited August 1, 2004
    Sandy wrote:
    I believe it's time to jump into the forum. I went to Santa Fe last weekend and returned to find my dog very ill. Now with that under control I will post some pics and add some comments.

    LANDING

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    YEAH, dog.

    Nice picture. Where are the lines and curves?

    ginger
    After all is said and done, it is the sweet tea.
  • pathfinderpathfinder Super Moderators Posts: 14,708 moderator
    edited August 1, 2004
    Mitchell wrote:
    Rainy day here in Florida ruined my shooting. Then I saw these. Any comments?


    Mitch
    It is hard sometimes to capture good spider webs, I know, I have tried. Thought about it for lines and curves but couldn't find one I liked.

    The dark sky and the rain drops definitely help.1drink.gif
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  • ginger_55ginger_55 Registered Users Posts: 8,416 Major grins
    edited August 1, 2004
    snapapple wrote:
    My feelings are still my feelings. :cry I have been working very hard on this challenge. No one liked my buildings. Even after many attempts at cropping, black and white etc. Other people were posting flowers. So I thought fruit and leaves also fit the criteria. I suppose Andy was telling all of us we were off base there. As you said, better to find out now than later. Next time, if there is a next time, I'll make sure my photos "scream out" with the theme.

    Thank you Sid, Lynn, Ginnette for your honest comments.

    Sid, I think I was able to improve the persimmons by darkening the background and highlighting the fruit. I will reserve that photo for some thread on fruit and flowers or something. Perhaps I will submit it on another site. And the fig as well. I still like my photos and I am proud of them. I may even frame them. :) smile

    Meanwhile, I will devote my attentions to my "day job" this week. I may be overtired from spending all my free time on photography.
    Hey there, Snappy, I tried with an honest comment at the beginning, on the downtown photo, but I may have been too "scared" to make my point, exactly. I really did like your fruit, and I did see lines and curves, same with the first one. Curves in the fruit, lines in the leaf, I was totally honest there.

    Good idea to get away from it. I am enjoying my sabbatical, of course I am not "away", I am just here having fun, rather than trying for a picture as mine is up there, and I have shelved the frame angst til just before the deadline. I certainly have copies of them all. I am not feeling pressure right now, I wish the same for you, Snappy.

    For all you who have cheered me on re my family get together in Charlotte this weekend. We have lost the only vehicle to travel in..........work related, still has the job, but the van has to stay in town. Anyway, I am not leaving.

    Personally, I am devastated, have cried more than usual. Thank doG, for my "therapy" dog who crawled in my lap and we hugged each other. I also slept.

    The good news for you all is that I will be here all next weekend to post comments freely and share frame angst, lol. rolleyes1.gifrolleyes1.gifrolleyes1.gif :roll

    I am sad tonight, though. It is kind of like a death, it is another change of lifestyle. I tend to go through those like the stages of death, forgotten the order......... don't come to acceptance easily.

    ginger :cry

    Am happy about Sandy's dog, it did recover, didn't it?
    After all is said and done, it is the sweet tea.
  • lynnmalynnma Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 5,208 Major grins
    edited August 1, 2004
    Mitchell wrote:
    another..
    I like the second one mitchell.. I"m still waiting for the day when I capture a web covered in dew drops..
  • SandySandy Registered Users Posts: 762 Major grins
    edited August 1, 2004
    Yes, Helix is feeling much better. He is over 14 and has a hard time walking and getting up. I left him last weekend with sitters. He couldn't get up and they couldn't help much. He suffered a compression sore on his shoulder. With Acupuncture and anitbiotics he is up and around again and healing. The curve is in the wing of the airplane, and the lines are in the shape and on the wing. Point well taken though. Thanks Ginger.

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    ginger_55 wrote:
    Hey there, Snappy, I tried with an honest comment at the beginning, on the downtown photo, but I may have been too "scared" to make my point, exactly. I really did like your fruit, and I did see lines and curves, same with the first one. Curves in the fruit, lines in the leaf, I was totally honest there.

    Good idea to get away from it. I am enjoying my sabbatical, of course I am not "away", I am just here having fun, rather than trying for a picture as mine is up there, and I have shelved the frame angst til just before the deadline. I certainly have copies of them all. I am not feeling pressure right now, I wish the same for you, Snappy.

    For all you who have cheered me on re my family get together in Charlotte this weekend. We have lost the only vehicle to travel in..........work related, still has the job, but the van has to stay in town. Anyway, I am not leaving.

    Personally, I am devastated, have cried more than usual. Thank doG, for my "therapy" dog who crawled in my lap and we hugged each other. I also slept.

    The good news for you all is that I will be here all next weekend to post comments freely and share frame angst, lol. rolleyes1.gifrolleyes1.gifrolleyes1.gif :roll

    I am sad tonight, though. It is kind of like a death, it is another change of lifestyle. I tend to go through those like the stages of death, forgotten the order......... don't come to acceptance easily.

    ginger :cry

    Am happy about Sandy's dog, it did recover, didn't it?
  • wingerwinger Registered Users Posts: 694 Major grins
    edited August 1, 2004
    cmr164 wrote:
    I am really flondering on this... here are some lines with a touch of curves

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    This building has a great curve to it (try to find an old picture of the block, I love how many of the streets in Boston used to have that crescent to it, I think it reflects some of the street compostion in england, but I would have to check my facts on that). The crecent building and the one across the street (on tremont) but still reflect that curve (which is cool cause the cresent building is no longer on a street).

    I wonder if you could get a picture from a higher perspective?
  • ruttrutt Registered Users Posts: 6,511 Major grins
    edited August 1, 2004
    pathfinder wrote:
    And for a little critical evaluation....the background could be darker to focus attention on the foreground subject of interest, and perhaps a little G Blur of the background also. Need to keep the viewers eye centered so to speak.friday.gif Maybe you could have waited until she raised her arm to remove her elbow which I find a distracting element.lol3.giflol3.gif
    OK, this is just the kind of PS stuff that I'm not good at, but I gave it a shot. Is this better or worse than the original?

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    Lynn is just dying to help out with this one, and I am certainly interested in any specefic ideas. Actually, perhaps I'll outsource it to her.
    If not now, when?
  • wingerwinger Registered Users Posts: 694 Major grins
    edited August 1, 2004
    wxwax wrote:
    Yowza, now you're talking! Maybe lighten up a wee bit of the detail in the super dark areas, and increase the saturation a tiny bit? Very cool shot, winger!
    Yeah I will try to get time to play with it this week. But I just realised I had to of taken it during the challenge period :(. This one was taken at the end of june.
  • wxwaxwxwax Registered Users Posts: 15,471 Major grins
    edited August 2, 2004
    winger wrote:
    Yeah I will try to get time to play with it this week. But I just realised I had to of taken it during the challenge period :(. This one was taken at the end of june.

    Aw, bummer. But ya know what, there's no rule against going back and getting the same shot again! And you could try a bunch of different exposures and framings while you're there. It's always interesting to see what has worked and what hasn't, when you open up the files in the computer.

    EDIT: I just realized it was shot in Austin, and you're.... not in Austin. Nevermind. Sorry about that.
    Sid.
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  • wxwaxwxwax Registered Users Posts: 15,471 Major grins
    edited August 2, 2004
    Mitchell wrote:
    another..

    I like the second one better, Mitchell. It shows up better, and the moisture looks cool. Those strands are awfully fine, though. What it really needs is a spider somewhere in the web, preferably along a third. Now that would fill it out!
    Sid.
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  • wxwaxwxwax Registered Users Posts: 15,471 Major grins
    edited August 2, 2004
    rutt wrote:
    OK, this is just the kind of PS stuff that I'm not good at, but I gave it a shot. Is this better or worse than the original?

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    Lynn is just dying to help out with this one, and I am certainly interested in any specefic ideas. Actually, perhaps I'll outsource it to her.

    Have you considered B&W? naughty.gif

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    I'd think about making the background completely neutral, and emphasizing whatever shadow you can find on her... her... on her.
    Sid.
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  • ginger_55ginger_55 Registered Users Posts: 8,416 Major grins
    edited August 2, 2004
    pathfinder wrote:
    OK Here is a simple choice for the viewers - which is better Blue or Orange? Or am I wasting my time with either of them?



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    That particular subtle orange is beautiful IMO. I prefer it 100%.
    It kind of looks like a duotone. I will try to remember this when picking my colors, never know............ this is really nice.

    ginger
    After all is said and done, it is the sweet tea.
  • wxwaxwxwax Registered Users Posts: 15,471 Major grins
    edited August 2, 2004
    ginger_55 wrote:
    YEAH, dog.

    Nice picture. Where are the lines and curves?

    ginger

    Only needs lines or curves, not necessary to have both, Ginge. I quite like the lines of the wing. Perhaps a little cropping, Sandy?
    Sid.
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  • wxwaxwxwax Registered Users Posts: 15,471 Major grins
    edited August 2, 2004
    Some lines from this evening.

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    Sid.
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  • ginger_55ginger_55 Registered Users Posts: 8,416 Major grins
    edited August 2, 2004
    DJ-S1 wrote:
    Oversharpening? Oversaturated? Spot-on, as they say. Can't get anything ast you guys. As I guessed, I had laid it on a bit thick in PS. I actualy think I USM'd it, then tweaked a few more things, then shapened it again by mistake. eek7.gif

    Here's another try, used Neat Image first for less noise as well.

    As for going back to get the other tunnel in the frame, I think that's a great idea but I won't be able to do that until at least next weekend. And knowing myself, I won't remember to do it! But I can see what you mean, the repetition would help.


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    Most water is not this color blue, in a labratory somewhere maybe, but PS likes to turn mine like this, too.

    Just that comment. Frustrating.

    ginger
    After all is said and done, it is the sweet tea.
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