I don't know how you expect to get by with only 40GB, myself. I keep all of my photos off my internal drive, and I still have about 75Gb of my 100GB used...
I'd really love to see a benchmark on an 20" iMac core-duo with 2GB of ram. Price-wise that's about as much as I could envision spending on a system ($2000 +\- ?...) PC or Mac.
If every keystroke was a shutter press I'd be a pro by now...
I'd really love to see a benchmark on an 20" iMac core-duo with 2GB of ram. Price-wise that's about as much as I could envision spending on a system ($2000 +\- ?...) PC or Mac.
Patch, do you reckon the xp booted times give an indication of the likely speed increases once the universal version of ps is released, or doesn't it work like that ??
Patch, do you reckon the xp booted times give an indication of the likely speed increases once the universal version of ps is released, or doesn't it work like that ??
I don't know but I do hope that it is at least that fast with CS3.
OK, since this is starting to head a little off topic and these tests could be useful to other buyers, I started a benchmark test thread here. Please also post your results there. Thanks.
I'd really love to see a benchmark on an 20" iMac core-duo with 2GB of ram.
Did the RetouchPro radial blur test on a brand-spanking-new 20" iMac 'core-duo' in an apple store a few months ago. It only had 512 MB of RAM and did not have CS2, just CS. But it scored 1:24.
Of note is that a dual processor G5 based PowerMac adjacent to it also w/ 512MB of RAM and running CS only scored 1 second faster at 1:23. As I said, that leads me to think that either the 'rosetta' emulation required to run p-shop doesn't result in as much of a performance impact as one might think... or the Intel chips are just that much faster than the old PPC G5's..
i only say that because duo-core can be more easily confused with dual-core which is not exactly the same thing as core-duo.
Is this true?! I thought the 'duo-core' trade name was Apple's cutsey way of saying dual-core.. I always attributed the very good p-shop performance the new 'core-duo' products demonstrated was due to the fact that they had dual cores..
Is this true?! I thought the 'duo-core' trade name was Apple's cutsey way of saying dual-core.. I always attributed the very good p-shop performance the new 'core-duo' products demonstrated was due to the fact that they had dual cores..
core-duo is intel's name for their new architecture of dual core chips. they had dual core processors previously but they were a different (older) architecture.
Did the RetouchPro radial blur test on a brand-spanking-new 20" iMac 'core-duo' in an apple store a few months ago. It only had 512 MB of RAM and did not have CS2, just CS. But it scored 1:24.
Of note is that a dual processor G5 based PowerMac adjacent to it also w/ 512MB of RAM and running CS only scored 1 second faster at 1:23. As I said, that leads me to think that either the 'rosetta' emulation required to run p-shop doesn't result in as much of a performance impact as one might think... or the Intel chips are just that much faster than the old PPC G5's..
Rosetta definitely slows things down. So once we get a Universal Binary of Photoshop that Core Duo will get quite a bit faster than the G5 iMac. Two things to remember is the impact of Rosetta, and also the impact of two cores versus one core. Not all applications can make any real use of two cores, but Photoshop absolutely can.
Rosetta definitely slows things down. So once we get a Universal Binary of Photoshop that Core Duo will get quite a bit faster than the G5 iMac. Two things to remember is the impact of Rosetta, and also the impact of two cores versus one core. Not all applications can make any real use of two cores, but Photoshop absolutely can.
ok, so now for the million dollar question. does running photoshop through rosetta utilize both cores?
I'm curious about the impact Patch's 8GB of RAM had on the test.
I really hadn't considered going above 2GB on whatever machine I buy.
I think it allows me to run a lot of programs and keep going without making the machine usless.
So, I did another quick test on the G5
this time I had a lot more going on.
checking mail
surfing in safari
burning a dvd
bridge processing raw files to jpgs
quickbooks running
itunes playing music
excel running
journaling software running
photoshop running the benchmark
so it did slow me down for the 8 bit retouchpro test
88 sec vs 43 sec with nothing but safari running.
I bet it would not have as big a hit if I was not processing files via bridge or burning the DVD, but what kind of test would that be. I am also not running a separate disk for cache so that could slow me down too.
so whats the difference between dual core and core duo? you can't just tell me I'm wrong and not inform me!!!
you're not wrong...just not entirely accurate.
Core Duo is intels newest dual core architecture, it's significantly better than their first gen dual core chips that were more or less rushed to market so they could compete w/AMD. "L@@K! we have dual-core too" kinda thing. If you're in the market for an Intel dual core, make sure it's a Core Duo. And since that's not confusing enough, the next revision of this architecture will be renamed to Core2 Duo.
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Took me 120 seconds on CS.
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it's good to know that I can blur any image in less than 3/4 of a minute. it may help with some of my lesser pictures.
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29 seconds exactly for me.
intel 2.8 gig 800FSB dual core
2 gig ram (533mhz Twinmos)
128MB 6600GT PCI express video card
CS2
Ta-darrrrrrrrrrrrr !!!
78.5 seconds
Athlon XP 2700+ (2.16 GHz)
1 Gig DDR RAM @333 MHz
WinXPsp2, PSCS2
I closed down all of my open apps and it shaved off a whole 2 seconds!
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Photoshop can use the dual core well...not a lot else about can atm...i think this is why its so fast as well as the ram being fast.
Are you looking at a dual ?
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THAT'S the one I ran first! I had it saved as an action so I could run it after tuning my system.
The one above is heavier than the one linked to in Andy's original post.
So I'm at three minutes on that one and 80secs on the other one.
thanks Gubbs!
We just got 2 new duo-core PC's in the lab, and one new MacBook - gonna give that test a whirl when I get in this morning.
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I'd really love to see a benchmark on an 20" iMac core-duo with 2GB of ram. Price-wise that's about as much as I could envision spending on a system ($2000 +\- ?...) PC or Mac.
i only say that because duo-core can be more easily confused with dual-core which is not exactly the same thing as core-duo.
and because i'm annoyingly pedantic.
82secs for 1gb ram
for the retouch pro test
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G5 dual proc 2.7ghtz 8 gb ram CS2
Retouch Pro
43 sec, 8 bit file
53 sec, 16 bit file
Fred Miranda
21 secs
core duo 2.0ghtz, 2 gb ram, CS 2 (tryout)
booted in OSX
RetouchPRO
81 sec, 8 bit
130 sec, 16 bit
Fred Miranda
36 sec
booted in XP CS2 (tryout)
RetouchPRO
65 sec, 8 bit
72 sec, 16 bit
Fred Miranda
26 sec
RetouchPRO
200 sec, 8 bit
256 sec, 16 bit
Fred Miranda
98 sec
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I don't know but I do hope that it is at least that fast with CS3.
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Of note is that a dual processor G5 based PowerMac adjacent to it also w/ 512MB of RAM and running CS only scored 1 second faster at 1:23. As I said, that leads me to think that either the 'rosetta' emulation required to run p-shop doesn't result in as much of a performance impact as one might think... or the Intel chips are just that much faster than the old PPC G5's.. Is this true?! I thought the 'duo-core' trade name was Apple's cutsey way of saying dual-core.. I always attributed the very good p-shop performance the new 'core-duo' products demonstrated was due to the fact that they had dual cores..
I really hadn't considered going above 2GB on whatever machine I buy.
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core-duo is intel's name for their new architecture of dual core chips. they had dual core processors previously but they were a different (older) architecture.
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I think it allows me to run a lot of programs and keep going without making the machine usless.
So, I did another quick test on the G5
this time I had a lot more going on.
checking mail
surfing in safari
burning a dvd
bridge processing raw files to jpgs
quickbooks running
itunes playing music
excel running
journaling software running
photoshop running the benchmark
so it did slow me down for the 8 bit retouchpro test
88 sec vs 43 sec with nothing but safari running.
I bet it would not have as big a hit if I was not processing files via bridge or burning the DVD, but what kind of test would that be. I am also not running a separate disk for cache so that could slow me down too.
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Core Duo is intels newest dual core architecture, it's significantly better than their first gen dual core chips that were more or less rushed to market so they could compete w/AMD. "L@@K! we have dual-core too" kinda thing. If you're in the market for an Intel dual core, make sure it's a Core Duo. And since that's not confusing enough, the next revision of this architecture will be renamed to Core2 Duo.
yeeeah.