Fred Miranda's Big Decision (now the evolution of Dgrin)

bauerman

DavidTO wrote:

I've heard enough from him .

You only meant that you had heard enough from me on THIS topic right? I have so many more opinions to voice!!

wxwax

DavidTO wrote:

This feedback is great. Keep it coming!

More beer and loose women would help. We seem to have a deficit.

DavidTO

bauerman wrote:

You only meant that you had heard enough from me on THIS topic right? I have so many more opinions to voice!!

No, the only person I've heard too much from is wxwax. Hard to shut that man up.

Any registered member's input on this is welcome!

bauerman

wxwax wrote:

More beer and loose women would help. We seem to have a deficit.

You have to give it to him for his candor.............or maybe it is just a lack of internal dialog.

claudermilk

DavidTO wrote:

No, the only person I've heard too much from is wxwax. Hard to shut that man up.

Any registered member's input on this is welcome!

Well, at 13,000+ posts, who hasn't?

So far things are wonderful here. I really haven't seen the knock-down drag-out flamefests I've witnessed (or unfortunately occasionally been dragged into) elsewhere. So far we users have been making it relatively easy on you guys by behaving ourselves.

Hmm....maybe more beer & loose women would "help" with that. ...just so long as the beer isn't what I term "sex in a canoe beer"

sskoutas

Andy wrote:

I love Fred, and have lots of respect for that board, too, have been a regular there for years. But it KILLS me that it's so so so slow.

I couldn't agree more... it's a wonderful community over there, and I am a frequent participant there as well. The N&W forum in particular is a great group.

But as you said... those servers are running so slow that sometimes I wonder if there's a gerbil on a wheel powering things behind the scenes.

sskoutas

gpphotos wrote:

dont get me wrong...i wouldnt pay 45 bucks just to see the forum...but if they are already subscribed, then why would they care?

I'm part of the community over there too... I could be wrong, but I get the impression that not a great percentage of the community actually subscribes. I could be wrong, but I don't think I am.

sskoutas

mr peas wrote:

I would honestly gladly donate $20 anually to join that site if it would help speed up the site. But I dont see why FM just doesnt implement a way to show banner ads on his site.

I think, at least in the FM community, you're in the minority there. Internet users are a horribly cheap bunch... free is key. I remember several threads over there for "pay for this" and "pay for that" many of which were started on speculation, and although most agreed that they loved the forum community, many said they wouldn't pay.

bauerman

sskoutas wrote:

I'm part of the community over there too... I could be wrong, but I get the impression that not a great percentage of the community actually subscribes. I could be wrong, but I don't think I am.

That makes sense to me based on what I saw the last time I browsed through the Buy and Sell Board over on FM. There were maybe 10 pages of ads, whereas there are normally a ton more than that in the past.

I think that Fred is seeing the "slowdown" that he was looking for. (Although the site performance was still slow as tar when I was there.)

sskoutas

Andy wrote:

So, one thing that's folks have asked for, we're going to try and deliver on. Separate forums for different types of gear.

We're starting with

Canon Gear
Nikon Gear
Other Gear

You can see the subforums now, but not post in them yet. (Click "Flea Market" in the navigation breadcrumb at the top of the page).

It's an extra click, to get to the goods you are looking for, and so our question, is this useful? Are there any downsides?

Good call, and may I suggest you NOT break things down further into more subcategories (like lens, body, flash, etc) unless absolutely neccessary. Reason: if I'm looking for someone selling their Mark IIn in the Canon FleaMarket for, say, $600 and I stumble on someone's 580EX flash for a good price, I might buy that even though it's not what I'm looking for.

We're all gear-heads. The more goodies we see, the better.

sskoutas

bauerman wrote:

Maybe like this - but it does add a third forum:

Canon Compatible cameras, lenses, flashes, etc…

Nikon Compatible cameras, lenses, flashes, etc...

Other Manufacturer cameras, lenses, flashes, etc…

Other Gear – lighting, bags, backdrops, memory, computers, etc…

At least this way the Pentax, Sony, Olympus people don't have to sort through the CF card, camera bag and muslin backdrop posts to find cameras or lenses of their chosen brand.

That's exactly what I was going to suggest too.

DavidTO

sskoutas wrote:

That's exactly what I was going to suggest too.

Is that not exactly what's already been done?

Jim Victory

I just recently became aware of this forum and joined. Like Chris I have been at FM since 03 and the whole climate has changed. I'm not talking about Fred or the Mods but the new members just seem more abrasive. They would rather argue than discuss a subject.

With over 5000 post, mostly images posted, I don't spend much time there anymore. I have been active on the B&S forum but that has become tenious too. Looking forward to what DGrin has to offer.

Andy

Jim Victory wrote:

Looking forward to what DGrin has to offer.

Something tells me you'll fit right in.

Welcome

hb1111

Jim Victory wrote:

Looking forward to what DGrin has to offer.

its not what DGRIN has to offer you, but what you can offer to DGRIN

Jim Victory

hb1111 wrote:

its not what DGRIN has to offer you, but what you can offer to DGRIN

I might have something available.:D

DavidTO

hb1111 wrote:

its not what DGRIN has to offer you, but what you can offer to DGRIN

I'm looking forward to seeing what all the FMers bring to dgrin!

sskoutas

DavidTO wrote:

Is that not exactly what's already been done?

Yup, and depending on how you want to look at it, I'm either incredibly late to the party, or a man with a vision for the future! (I hadn't seen the break-out of gear was already in place)

sskoutas

Andy wrote:

Something tells me you'll fit right in.

Welcome

Jim is an EXCELLENT addition to this community.

DoctorIt

sskoutas wrote:

Yup, and depending on how you want to look at it, I'm either incredibly late to the party, or a man with a vision for the future! (I hadn't seen the break-out of gear was already in place)

We're rather proud of how quickly we made the above-mentioned change here. Within a day of the big FM migration, we had subdivided the forum and updated all the guidelines. Navy Seals ain't got nothin' on us.

Glad you like it.

sskoutas

DoctorIt wrote:

We're rather proud of how quickly we made the above-mentioned change here...

You should be. I think the FMer's that end up here are going to be impressed with the forum's technical superiority, but they will be overwhelmed at the responsiveness of you people to your member's requests.

DavidTO

sskoutas wrote:

Yup, and depending on how you want to look at it, I'm either incredibly late to the party, or a man with a vision for the future! (I hadn't seen the break-out of gear was already in place)

Either way, you're in good company!

pesto126

I'm impressed already! the falloff of things for sale over at FM is amazing.. and now what's mainly left seems to be full or part time busineses selling their usual fare. For lowly amateurs like me, trying to sell a very decent but no pro 70-300 ED lens is not happening now.. oh well.. I hope Dgrin will become my new go to place and I love the format here over FM's look/feel. thx!

wxwax

Hi Pesto!

mikesd

Hi everyone, three year member @ FM and never even knew you guys were here. I guess there is a positive to everything. Looking forward to being a positive member here and already noticing alot of familar names.


Mike

wxwax

mikesd wrote:

Hi everyone, three year member @ FM and never even knew you guys were here. I guess there is a positive to everything. Looking forward to being a positive member here and already noticing alot of familar names.


Mike

imageswest

pesto126 wrote:

I'm impressed already! the falloff of things for sale over at FM is amazing.. and now what's mainly left seems to be full or part time busineses selling their usual fare.

I've noticed one or two of the retailers/resellers from FM have made the mover over here, too...

GoGo

Cliff?
imageswest?
Cliff is that you?

Welcome, this is a very helpful place!

DavidTO

GoGo wrote:

imageswest?
Cliff is that you?

Welcome, this is a very helpful place!

Heheh. It's like a high school reunion around here!

Lex

gus wrote:

That whole board over there is the best advertising other boards can get.

That's a pretty big rate, and will deter all but the real SERIOUS and repetitive seller, a real loss for the board.

Hey, on that note, I see some cheap skates here, I know now...

Lex (the artist formerly known as Doug)
www.fotogafer.com