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Muench Workshop: Isle of Mull, Scotland - May 2008

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    AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited May 23, 2008
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    Moogle PepperMoogle Pepper Registered Users Posts: 2,950 Major grins
    edited May 23, 2008
    You all look so happy and pleased with your workshop/trip!
    Food & Culture.
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    thebigskythebigsky Registered Users Posts: 1,052 Major grins
    edited May 24, 2008
    Hi Schmoo,

    I'm also sorry we missed eachother but hopefully we'll catch up again on a future workshop. I really found your approach inspiring as you constantly reminded me not just to look at the big picture but to focus on details as well (I'm still trying to work out why you were running backwards and forwards infront of your camera on the beach BTW :D )

    I shall keep an eye on your galleries and look forward to seeing your shots.

    Charlie

    P.S. Please no kick door very hard
    schmoo wrote:
    Charlie it was so great to shoot with you and you really set the bar very high. I'm sorry I didn't get a chance to say bye to you or most of the group, but I hope our paths cross again. I had a wonderful week, even though I was only really functional the first day and the last day. lol3.gif

    Looking forward to seeing your shots! A lot.
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    thebigskythebigsky Registered Users Posts: 1,052 Major grins
    edited May 24, 2008
    Hey Emmanuel,

    You cheeky sod, I'd prefer quiet big guy, although a future workshop ban would not be a bad idea financially mwink.gif

    Did I depress Sid? I bet he's happy now revisiting all those sights without us all in tow and no time limits!

    I'm sorry I didn't get to say goodbye to some of you and I don't know if John and Kevin are ever likely to read here but they were a great couple of chaps. I spent most of my time in John's van and he was fascinating, knowledgeable and generous with his time (thank goodness he was a great driver as well, some of those roads....) I also took the opportunity to speak with Kevin wherever possible and he was quite a character, they certainly added considerably to the experience. I would have like to have bought them a pint. beer.gif

    Charlie


    Mano photo wrote:
    Charlie sneaky little guy. I don’t know what everyone else thinks but I think he should be banned from all future workshops. Why? Ah no reason really other then he depressed our friend Sid, although the official ban should state illegal use of camera and lenses to capture great scenes.
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    thebigskythebigsky Registered Users Posts: 1,052 Major grins
    edited May 24, 2008
    You all look so happy and pleased with your workshop/trip!

    Yes it was a great trip, are you booking up for the next one?

    Charlie
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    schmooschmoo Registered Users Posts: 8,468 Major grins
    edited May 24, 2008
    thebigsky wrote:
    Hi Schmoo,

    I'm also sorry we missed eachother but hopefully we'll catch up again on a future workshop. I really found your approach inspiring as you constantly reminded me not just to look at the big picture but to focus on details as well (I'm still trying to work out why you were running backwards and forwards infront of your camera on the beach BTW :D )

    I shall keep an eye on your galleries and look forward to seeing your shots.

    Charlie

    P.S. Please no kick door very hard
    rolleyes1.gif The running around on the beach was for this shot! I bet you thought I was friggin' nuts. :D

    Thanks for the compliment, and I say the same to you. I get too focused on details and forget to look at the big picture sometimes. I'm grateful that we all had that last really good group discussion at the restaurant in Glasgow, because I think it was a perfect way to end such a great week. I hope we all went home with some food for thought. thumb.gif
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    thebigskythebigsky Registered Users Posts: 1,052 Major grins
    edited May 24, 2008
    schmoo wrote:
    rolleyes1.gif The running around on the beach was for this shot! I bet you thought I was friggin' nuts. :D

    Cool Shot! Actually, at first I thought you were running back to your camera because it was falling over mwink.gif

    The discussion was helpful, though I found it difficult to concentrate after seeing Emmanuel attempting to eat his chicken and chips with two spoons rolleyes1.gif

    BTW, I've started adding some images here, but for those who don't like external links I'll add some to the thread later.

    Charlie
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    Marc MuenchMarc Muench Registered Users Posts: 1,420 Major grins
    edited May 24, 2008
    Made it back after the long flightclap.gif

    On the way to the airport, Andy and I were wondering just how lucky we actually were, 8 days of sun in Scotland? "Brilliant" as they say. With windshield wipers going fast in the morning rain we just could not help but smile. Yes we were quite fortunate.

    My cup floweth over with good memories of a distant land. Thank all of you for putting up with the exciting sleepless schedule. I will be posting many fun photos very soon.

    Cheers
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    Fred WFred W Registered Users Posts: 453 Major grins
    edited May 25, 2008
    Tobermory Harbor
    First I'd like to say that the Scotland Workshop was an opportunity that I was excited about attending for almost a year. Our arrival on the Isle of Mull did not disappoint. There were so many photo opportunities we barely has time to sleep. All the preparations that we took for raingear paid off since Murphy's Law was invoked and the weather ended up being fantastic. The time we took critiquing some of our photos was a great learning experience opening up my eyes for improved photo compositions. Also, thank you Marc for spending time with me at the Tobermory Harbor for improving techniques using my new Tilt & Shift lens. Here are a couple of images from Tobermory harbor.

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    Emmanuel CoupeEmmanuel Coupe Registered Users Posts: 48 Big grins
    edited May 25, 2008
    Nice images Fred, keep them comming.
    I enjoy the reflecting waters of the bay in your image... Nicely composed scenes.
    www.emmanuelcoupe.com

    "Whatever befalls the Earth befalls the sons and daughters of the Earth. We did not weave the web of life; We are merely a strand in it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselvs.." Chief Seattle
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    Fred WFred W Registered Users Posts: 453 Major grins
    edited May 25, 2008
    Mano photo wrote:
    Nice images Fred, keep them comming.
    I enjoy the reflecting waters of the bay in your image... Nicely composed scenes.

    Thanks Emmanuel. Here are a few more. These were taken about 5:30AM on the same day.


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    This pic was taken with a 24mm Tilt Shift lens using a 3 shot vertical shift giving it a true square image.

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    Emmanuel CoupeEmmanuel Coupe Registered Users Posts: 48 Big grins
    edited May 25, 2008
    Tobermory has an afro...:D
    Beautiful images Fred
    www.emmanuelcoupe.com

    "Whatever befalls the Earth befalls the sons and daughters of the Earth. We did not weave the web of life; We are merely a strand in it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselvs.." Chief Seattle
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    Fred WFred W Registered Users Posts: 453 Major grins
    edited May 25, 2008
    Mull's Best Light & Dark
    The rewards after a long day of shooting. thumb.gifthumb.gifthumb.gif


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    schmooschmoo Registered Users Posts: 8,468 Major grins
    edited May 25, 2008
    Fred great shots of Tobermory! Are you enjoying the whisky you got at the shop? :D

    I'm just popping into to say.... don't get in between a man and his Tree. lol3.gif

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    Fred WFred W Registered Users Posts: 453 Major grins
    edited May 26, 2008
    schmoo wrote:
    Fred great shots of Tobermory! Are you enjoying the whisky you got at the shop? :D

    Thanks Stephanie. No, I'm saving that Scotch for a special occasion. I can't believe that I was sampling scotch at 7AM in the duty free shop at the airport on our way back home. Here is a picture from the Tobermory Distillery when we had our tour on Mull.

    Can you say "Tobermory Ten AM Taste Testing Tour" three times fast?rolleyes1.gifrolleyes1.gifrolleyes1.gif

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    DavidTODavidTO Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 19,160 Major grins
    edited May 26, 2008
    I've edited the first post in this thread to add an index of threads from the workshop. We'll be keeping it updated, but if we miss one, let me know. deal.gif
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    Emmanuel CoupeEmmanuel Coupe Registered Users Posts: 48 Big grins
    edited May 26, 2008
    Nodal point question
    Just a quick question about the nodal point. Marc indicated to me that the nodal point for the 17-40L is the same at any focal length. Online I found conflicting information saying when the FG is closer then 10 feet then a closer calibration should take place.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
    In any case can anyone tell me the best numbers to dial in on the “really right stuff” rail for the tilt shift lens and the 17-40? (too lazy today to sit and test it)<o:p></o:p>
    www.emmanuelcoupe.com

    "Whatever befalls the Earth befalls the sons and daughters of the Earth. We did not weave the web of life; We are merely a strand in it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselvs.." Chief Seattle
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    Fred WFred W Registered Users Posts: 453 Major grins
    edited May 26, 2008
    Mano photo wrote:
    Just a quick question about the nodal point. Marc indicated to me that the nodal point for the 17-40L is the same at any focal length. Online I found conflicting information saying when the FG is closer then 10 feet then a closer calibration should take place.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
    In any case can anyone tell me the best numbers to dial in on the “really right stuff” rail for the tilt shift lens and the 17-40? (too lazy today to sit and test it)<o:p></o:p>

    Hi Emmanuel. I don't have the 17-40L lens but when I calibrate my 16-35L the nodal point seems to be relatively constant throughout the focal length range.
    My RRS setup and camera gear are different from yours so I can't help you with an exact rail setting. My 24mm TS lens rail setting is 15mm longer than on my 16-35mm. It's quick to check and you want it to be exact.:D
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    DavidTODavidTO Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 19,160 Major grins
    edited May 26, 2008
    Mano photo wrote:
    Just a quick question about the nodal point. Marc indicated to me that the nodal point for the 17-40L is the same at any focal length. Online I found conflicting information saying when the FG is closer then 10 feet then a closer calibration should take place.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
    In any case can anyone tell me the best numbers to dial in on the “really right stuff” rail for the tilt shift lens and the 17-40? (too lazy today to sit and test it)<o:p></o:p>


    Emmanuel,

    You really should test it. It's not hard, doesn't take long, and it's something you need to be doing, anyway. <img src="https://us.v-cdn.net/6029383/emoji/deal.gif&quot; border="0" alt="" >
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    AndyAndy Registered Users Posts: 50,016 Major grins
    edited May 26, 2008
    Mano photo wrote:
    Just a quick question about the nodal point. Marc indicated to me that the nodal point for the 17-40L is the same at any focal length. Online I found conflicting information saying when the FG is closer then 10 feet then a closer calibration should take place.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
    In any case can anyone tell me the best numbers to dial in on the “really right stuff” rail for the tilt shift lens and the 17-40? (too lazy today to sit and test it)<o:p></o:p>

    Pls don't use color on your dgrin posts:

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    Homer Simpson, to the rescue, Emmanuel:
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    Emmanuel CoupeEmmanuel Coupe Registered Users Posts: 48 Big grins
    edited May 26, 2008
    You are absolutly right, I'm lazy today I'd rather say tales of the road.
    www.emmanuelcoupe.com

    "Whatever befalls the Earth befalls the sons and daughters of the Earth. We did not weave the web of life; We are merely a strand in it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselvs.." Chief Seattle
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    LlywellynLlywellyn Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 3,186 Major grins
    edited May 26, 2008
    Mano photo wrote:
    You are absolutly right, I'm lazy today I'd rather say tales of the road.

    Oh, does this mean I get to return the scolding I got for being lazy with my (crappy) tripod? :giggle
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    thebigskythebigsky Registered Users Posts: 1,052 Major grins
    edited May 26, 2008
    Mano photo wrote:
    You are absolutly right, I'm lazy today I'd rather say tales of the road.

    I'm not convinced you're capable of being lazy having seen your work ethic and enthusiasm in Mull bowdown.gif

    Charlie
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    thebigskythebigsky Registered Users Posts: 1,052 Major grins
    edited May 26, 2008
    Adventures in Mull, Part 1
    So many great memories of sharing a passion in a stunning location with wonderful people, an experience that won't be forgotten.

    I honestly felt my photography improving as the days went by, both from direct tuition and critique through to simply observing others going about their craft.

    Here are some I've worked up so far:-

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    Right then, back to Lightroom for some more, I hope everyone else keeps posting I'm really eager to see more. :ivar

    BTW, I could do with Emmanuel adding some of his poetic words.

    Charlie
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    gusgus Registered Users Posts: 16,209 Major grins
    edited May 26, 2008
    thebigsky wrote:
    So many great memories of sharing a passion in a stunning location with wonderful people, an experience that won't be forgotten.

    I honestly felt my photography improving as the days went by, both from direct tuition and critique through to simply observing others going about their craft.

    Here are some I've worked up so far:-

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    Right then, back to Lightroom for some more, I hope everyone else keeps posting I'm really eager to see more. :ivar

    BTW, I could do with Emmanuel adding some of his poetic words.

    Charlie

    These 2 are seriously great photos.
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    thebigskythebigsky Registered Users Posts: 1,052 Major grins
    edited May 26, 2008
    gus wrote:
    These 2 are seriously great photos.

    Wow, thanks Gus thumb.gif

    I'm really fond of those two.

    Charlie
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    W.W. WebsterW.W. Webster Registered Users Posts: 3,204 Major grins
    edited May 27, 2008
    thebigsky wrote:
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    I'm with Gus on this. That's one seriously good photo. thumb.gif

    I'd love to see it a little (well actually, a lot) larger - well done!
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    thebigskythebigsky Registered Users Posts: 1,052 Major grins
    edited May 27, 2008
    I'm with Gus on this. That's one seriously good photo. thumb.gif

    I'd love to see it a little (well actually, a lot) larger - well done!

    Thank you very much, it was quite a location. One mini bus had left for the hotel and I agreed to stay behind to wait for Marc and Emmanuel who were still way over on some rocks. I'd already put my gear away but then saw this scene unfolding before me and got my gear out again, I'm glad I did, it's probably the best shot I took!

    Charlie
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    Marc MuenchMarc Muench Registered Users Posts: 1,420 Major grins
    edited May 27, 2008
    thebigsky wrote:
    I'd already put my gear away but then saw this scene unfolding before me and got my gear out again, I'm glad I did, it's probably the best shot I took!

    Charlie

    This is fantasticclap.gifclapclap.gif This is just how things happen when your not in a hurry. Good eye Charliethumb.gif
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    thebigskythebigsky Registered Users Posts: 1,052 Major grins
    edited May 27, 2008
    This is fantasticclap.gifclapclap.gif This is just how things happen when your not in a hurry. Good eye Charliethumb.gif

    Thanks Marc, I definitely get better results when more relaxed, it was so peaceful that evening. After the other mini-bus had left us just John and I were chatting and I was completely chilled-out, I considered the scene and made an exposure that for me captured the evening.

    Charlie
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