I love seeing candid shots from the trip! I'm almost finished uploading my snaps and I'll post them soon.
I think Emmanuel had a plethora of great, deep, pensive expressions throughout the week. Probaby thinking about how Scotland was birthed from the loins of ancient Greece, no doubt.
Charlie, thank you for sharing all of your wonderful visions. You're a real champ for getting thorugh your photos so quickly! Please, keep inspiring us.
(also learn how to use two spoons to eat chicken and chips)
Emmanuel puts his sunglasses, when not wearing them, on his thigh? Never thought of that, thought of on top of the head, around the neck... but not on the thigh...
I love seeing candid shots from the trip! I'm almost finished uploading my snaps and I'll post them soon.
I think Emmanuel had a plethora of great, deep, pensive expressions throughout the week. Probaby thinking about how Scotland was birthed from the loins of ancient Greece, no doubt.
Charlie, thank you for sharing all of your wonderful visions. You're a real champ for getting thorugh your photos so quickly! Please, keep inspiring us.
(also learn how to use two spoons to eat chicken and chips)
Thanks Schmoo, I don't quite go into the levels of Photoshop that Marc demonstrated, that's my project for this year, to learn PS. Apart from some sky blends these were all done with Lightroom so quick and dirty
I'm also enjoying the candids and have a few to add, hopefully shortly, though I wish I'd taken more!
Thanks Schmoo, I don't quite go into the levels of Photoshop that Marc demonstrated, that's my project for this year, to learn PS. Apart from some sky blends these were all done with Lightroom so quick and dirty
I'm also enjoying the candids and have a few to add, hopefully shortly, though I wish I'd taken more!
Charlie
Make sure you don't waste too much time on that stuff it is bad for your health. Your pictures are very well processed why spent endless hours learning more Photoshop. The only thing I would do if you haven't done it already would be to master printing and that requires little Photoshop training but nothing fancy. The simpler you keep your post processing the better off you are and you seem to be on the right track, that’s for certain. Otherwise your photo presentations are excellent.
"Whatever befalls the Earth befalls the sons and daughters of the Earth. We did not weave the web of life; We are merely a strand in it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselvs.." Chief Seattle
Make sure you don't waste too much time on that stuff it is bad for your health. Your pictures are very well processed why spent endless hours learning more Photoshop. The only thing I would do if you haven't done it already would be to master printing and that requires little Photoshop training but nothing fancy. The simpler you keep your post processing the better off you are and you seem to be on the right track, that’s for certain. Otherwise your photo presentations are excellent.
Thanks Emmanuel, I agree, I don't want to spend even more time in front of the computer. My main targets are preparation of images for printing and learning how to make localised enhancements as opposed to global ones which you're limited to with Lightroom, nothing too heavy.
Back from UK now- raining here. Probably gorgeous in Mull
Hi everyone,
I finally made it onto this thread - looked closed when I looked yesterday, so glad I came back and saw some great new entries. Shmoo - what a lovely record of the week you've made - I particularly like Charlie labelled as a cheeky feathered tagalong ( just kidding - I did see the chaffinch!) Sorry I didn't get to say goodbye to you or to Sid/Alfred/Sebastien. Thank you to everyone for a really wonderful week together - great company, very inspiring photography, and teaching, in a wonderful setting, and a really very special time for me. Hopefully we will meet again - I'm working on it anyway - have signed up for Sierras, and will try not to be "last to mule". Emmanuel - I did laugh when I saw my name tag, roadrunner. I still think you were most unfair to walk faster than I can run..! But you are forgiven for taking us to your special tree, and sharing a magical place with us. I am working on PS through David's great tut's and Scott Kelby CS3, and hope to be slightly more proficient in the not too distant future. I shall be very happy that there is nowhere to plug a computer in the Sierras, or maybe by then, I will be hooked. Who knows? keep the photos coming, everyone - they look fantastic. I only have one so far!!!!!! Second one is a disaster - might put it up for advice/comic relief as layer masking looks horrendous. Will fight alone for now.
Best to everyone, Sarah
.......................................... Sarah A Wager, MB BS
I can't wait to see the photos that will come up over the next few weeks/months. Truth be told I am a little about so many people mentioning that they don't feel adequate because they didn't quite grasp all of the PS tricks Marc was teaching. I would like to say "Don't sweat it" because a good photo does not necessarily require fancy processing to be a good photo, but I understand wanting to learn these tricks to enhance your vision. But good shooting is the first step, and I think (hope) that we all pushed on our boundaries last week in the field, watching and learning from each other.
In my experience it just takes time and practice... as well as a bit of good judgment to ensure you don't go completely overboard.
Anyway, I hope that our paths can cross again soon, perhaps under slightly less sleep-deprived situations. I know that you said to me on the 2nd or 3rd day, "Are you nice? I don't know yet if you're nice!" which is true. Funny to think that in some ways, a week isn't long enough to get to know everyone, even if there's only a handful of us.
Have a GREAT time in the Sierras! I know you were debating about that one and I'm glad to see that you're taking the plunge.
Truth be told I am a little about so many people mentioning that they don't feel adequate because they didn't quite grasp all of the PS tricks Marc was teaching. I would like to say "Don't sweat it" because a good photo does not necessarily require fancy processing to be a good photo
Well said Schmoo
Photoshop is for the icing and should not become the cake. No matter how fancy one can get in photoshop the art of seeing is learned by composing within the boundaries of one exposure during good light, meaning light that matches the same dynamic range of the digital camera.
Photoshop is for the icing and should not become the cake. No matter how fancy one can get in photoshop the art of seeing is learned by composing within the boundaries of one exposure during good light, meaning light that matches the same dynamic range of the digital camera.
The single most important PS tool I've learned is to not screw the image up. When in doubt, back off, and leave it be.
First images
Nice to read all your supportive comments. I made the statement from the beginning that I wanted more "wow" in my photos. I think I came to the conclusion that the wow is the processing "icing", and this is the next step for me. Little steps for now, and Ross is nagging me to put up the 2 that I've done. I expect you to be honest, though, and not baby me as a beginner. Schmoo - you misquoted me slightly - I said that I hadn't really had a chance to talk to you, that you seemed nice, but I really hadn't found out that you were nice!! A week was plenty of time to confirm my initial impression - I was only sorry we didn't have longer - would love to see you in the Sierras - I have never camped in my life either!!! I don't need 5* hotels but I do like a daily shower and a comfy loo - these seem unlikely from my understanding to date. But the lure of a spectacular location and more of the wonderful inspiration of the group and 'fearless leaders' makes me think I can probably put up with the slight (???) inconvenience! Hope so !
Anyway here are the first 2 - no masks - yet!! Sarah
.......................................... Sarah A Wager, MB BS
Hi Kerry - and thank you - feedback on the first? Glad your cider arrived - well, most of it. A good excuse to go back and do a resend. Cheers!
For the first, I like the composition, though I feel myself wanting a smidge more breathing room for the boat on the left of the frame, likely because it's position is implying it's about to sail outside the border. Were the boat facing into the frame, I don't think the breathing room would catch my eye.
The foreground with the green algae and water feels like it could be brightened up a bit to bring out that marvelous green and rippled reflection. Boat exposure looks spot on.
Thanks Kerry - I agree about the boat at the edge, and also the foreground. I worked on bringing that up, but found that any more started to compromise other areas. Guess I have to play around with masks, but that may take some more on the learning curves. Feedback much appreciated. Sarah
.......................................... Sarah A Wager, MB BS
Thanks Kerry - I agree about the boat at the edge, and also the foreground. I worked on bringing that up, but found that any more started to compromise other areas. Guess I have to play around with masks, but that may take some more on the learning curves. Feedback much appreciated. Sarah
Sarah, I like these two images! Wish the light was more favorable at the time, but it was beautiful nontheless.
Feel free to start a new thread with your next images so we can all take a fair whack!
Hi Schmoo - thank you - I still want to play around with the boat image some more -my recollection of the light is that it was wonderful - I wish I could blame it, but ....! Sarah
.......................................... Sarah A Wager, MB BS
Hi Schmoo - thank you - I still want to play around with the boat image some more -my recollection of the light is that it was wonderful - I wish I could blame it, but ....! Sarah
Sarah, I think it appeared wonderful because it was sunny and bright and we just popped out of the vans. I believe that for light to be wonderful, it should be directional and most of all discretionary. By directional I mean to the side casting shadows. The shadows then make it discretionary. Often, during the middle of the day there are no shadows unless cast by clouds. In your sailboat image as well as the flowers image, the light is even throughout, leaving no releif nor character to the landscape. Of course there are always exceptions to these cliches and on occasion mid day light can be used in a brilliant fashion, even in landscape
Sarah, I think it appeared wonderful because it was sunny and bright and we just popped out of the vans. I believe that for light to be wonderful, it should be directional and most of all discretionary. By directional I mean to the side casting shadows. The shadows then make it discretionary. Often, during the middle of the day there are no shadows unless cast by clouds. In your sailboat image as well as the flowers image, the light is even throughout, leaving no releif nor character to the landscape. Of course there are always exceptions to these cliches and on occasion mid day light can be used in a brilliant fashion, even in landscape
Hi Marc- I do agree with you - I think I was in seventh heaven just being there in a beautiful landscape at the start of a promise of a wonderful week. When I stop to think about it, it is a time of day that I usually don't go out to photograph, and certainly the morning in the bluebell wood reinforced that sentiment. But it was still lovely and I think that the photos that everyone produced showed a creativity that can come from that kind of an inspiration of enthusiasm. It's a weird combination of the art and the science, I guess...
.......................................... Sarah A Wager, MB BS
<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p> Marc you should know that shotting landscapes in the middle of the day is a crime and in some countries severely punishable.<o:p></o:p> Joking aside I second Marc’s comments on directional light and I just want to add that in low angle light situations you can also have added sense of depth in your photographs.<o:p></o:p> The tricky part is that with our eyes we see depth almost everywhere but our cameras don't see it that way.
"Whatever befalls the Earth befalls the sons and daughters of the Earth. We did not weave the web of life; We are merely a strand in it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselvs.." Chief Seattle
Hi Marc- I do agree with you - I think I was in seventh heaven just being there in a beautiful landscape at the start of a promise of a wonderful week. When I stop to think about it, it is a time of day that I usually don't go out to photograph, and certainly the morning in the bluebell wood reinforced that sentiment. But it was still lovely and I think that the photos that everyone produced showed a creativity that can come from that kind of an inspiration of enthusiasm. It's a weird combination of the art and the science, I guess...
Ding ding ding!
I think that's the toughest point I wrestle with any time I'm out shooting with other photographers. You end up balancing opportunity (time) and the light. If only there was some way to travel and shoot only when the light is perfect! But we all know reality works nothing like that.
I distinctly remember (and made notes about) the fact that we came across some really beautiful areas at some very unfavorable times of the day. But what can you do? The chances to see these places only comes once or twice in a lifetime...
I think that's the toughest point I wrestle with any time I'm out shooting with other photographers. You end up balancing opportunity (time) and the light. If only there was some way to travel and shoot only when the light is perfect! But we all know reality works nothing like that.
I distinctly remember (and made notes about) the fact that we came across some really beautiful areas at some very unfavorable times of the day. But what can you do? The chances to see these places only comes once or twice in a lifetime...
....like the Sierras, Schmoo!
.......................................... Sarah A Wager, MB BS
Just a small reminder for those in the group who enjoyed where we stayed: David mentioned during our stay that giving Rebecca and Geoffrey a nice review on TripAdvisor would be a great way for us all to say, "Thank you."
Just a small reminder for those in the group who enjoyed where we stayed: David mentioned during our stay that giving Rebecca and Geoffrey a nice review on TripAdvisor would be a great way for us all to say, "Thank you."
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Well I'm working my way through, still have a few stragglers left to process.
Charlie
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I think Emmanuel had a plethora of great, deep, pensive expressions throughout the week. Probaby thinking about how Scotland was birthed from the loins of ancient Greece, no doubt.
Charlie, thank you for sharing all of your wonderful visions. You're a real champ for getting thorugh your photos so quickly! Please, keep inspiring us.
(also learn how to use two spoons to eat chicken and chips)
Photos that don't suck / 365 / Film & Lomography
www.tednghiem.com
Thanks Schmoo, I don't quite go into the levels of Photoshop that Marc demonstrated, that's my project for this year, to learn PS. Apart from some sky blends these were all done with Lightroom so quick and dirty
I'm also enjoying the candids and have a few to add, hopefully shortly, though I wish I'd taken more!
Charlie
Make sure you don't waste too much time on that stuff it is bad for your health. Your pictures are very well processed why spent endless hours learning more Photoshop. The only thing I would do if you haven't done it already would be to master printing and that requires little Photoshop training but nothing fancy. The simpler you keep your post processing the better off you are and you seem to be on the right track, that’s for certain.
Otherwise your photo presentations are excellent.
"Whatever befalls the Earth befalls the sons and daughters of the Earth. We did not weave the web of life; We are merely a strand in it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselvs.." Chief Seattle
Remember the gear
and all the food
All of our similarities
... and differences
All our faces
and rare shining moments
Cameras pointed in every direction
and lessons at every turn
So many magickal sheep
and fantastic views
May we all chimp in good company
and wax poetic about the forces that bring us together
So, to all of us friends, after the cold dry week of squishy sandwiches
(and some other cheeky, feathered tagalongs)
Salute the cameras that fire our love!
May we always be willing to share, smile, and lend a hand
And embrace the light.
Photos that don't suck / 365 / Film & Lomography
Thanks Emmanuel, I agree, I don't want to spend even more time in front of the computer. My main targets are preparation of images for printing and learning how to make localised enhancements as opposed to global ones which you're limited to with Lightroom, nothing too heavy.
Charlie
Great job Schmoo, so glad you documented the trip like this, I'm really enjoying browsing your gallery, thank you!
Charlie
Hi everyone,
I finally made it onto this thread - looked closed when I looked yesterday, so glad I came back and saw some great new entries. Shmoo - what a lovely record of the week you've made - I particularly like Charlie labelled as a cheeky feathered tagalong ( just kidding - I did see the chaffinch!) Sorry I didn't get to say goodbye to you or to Sid/Alfred/Sebastien. Thank you to everyone for a really wonderful week together - great company, very inspiring photography, and teaching, in a wonderful setting, and a really very special time for me. Hopefully we will meet again - I'm working on it anyway - have signed up for Sierras, and will try not to be "last to mule". Emmanuel - I did laugh when I saw my name tag, roadrunner. I still think you were most unfair to walk faster than I can run..! But you are forgiven for taking us to your special tree, and sharing a magical place with us. I am working on PS through David's great tut's and Scott Kelby CS3, and hope to be slightly more proficient in the not too distant future. I shall be very happy that there is nowhere to plug a computer in the Sierras, or maybe by then, I will be hooked. Who knows? keep the photos coming, everyone - they look fantastic. I only have one so far!!!!!! Second one is a disaster - might put it up for advice/comic relief as layer masking looks horrendous. Will fight alone for now.
Best to everyone, Sarah
Sarah A Wager, MB BS
+39 075 878 0642 or on the web at
www.photoempt.com
photoempt.smugmug.com
www.rjslade.com
and if you are interested in our italian cooking school here in Monte Castello di Vibio check out www.umbriacucina.com
Thanks Molsondog, we were certainly blessed with some great light that evening!
Charlie
I can't wait to see the photos that will come up over the next few weeks/months. Truth be told I am a little
In my experience it just takes time and practice... as well as a bit of good judgment to ensure you don't go completely overboard.
Anyway, I hope that our paths can cross again soon, perhaps under slightly less sleep-deprived situations. I know that you said to me on the 2nd or 3rd day, "Are you nice? I don't know yet if you're nice!" which is true. Funny to think that in some ways, a week isn't long enough to get to know everyone, even if there's only a handful of us.
Have a GREAT time in the Sierras! I know you were debating about that one and I'm glad to see that you're taking the plunge.
Photos that don't suck / 365 / Film & Lomography
Well said Schmoo
Photoshop is for the icing and should not become the cake. No matter how fancy one can get in photoshop the art of seeing is learned by composing within the boundaries of one exposure during good light, meaning light that matches the same dynamic range of the digital camera.
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The single most important PS tool I've learned is to not screw the image up. When in doubt, back off, and leave it be.
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Nice to read all your supportive comments. I made the statement from the beginning that I wanted more "wow" in my photos. I think I came to the conclusion that the wow is the processing "icing", and this is the next step for me. Little steps for now, and Ross is nagging me to put up the 2 that I've done. I expect you to be honest, though, and not baby me as a beginner. Schmoo - you misquoted me slightly - I said that I hadn't really had a chance to talk to you, that you seemed nice, but I really hadn't found out that you were nice!! A week was plenty of time to confirm my initial impression - I was only sorry we didn't have longer - would love to see you in the Sierras - I have never camped in my life either!!! I don't need 5* hotels but I do like a daily shower and a comfy loo - these seem unlikely from my understanding to date. But the lure of a spectacular location and more of the wonderful inspiration of the group and 'fearless leaders' makes me think I can probably put up with the slight (???) inconvenience! Hope so !
Anyway here are the first 2 - no masks - yet!! Sarah
Sarah A Wager, MB BS
+39 075 878 0642 or on the web at
www.photoempt.com
photoempt.smugmug.com
www.rjslade.com
and if you are interested in our italian cooking school here in Monte Castello di Vibio check out www.umbriacucina.com
And for those curious, I just received my Bulmers today. Final international shipping tally?
Sent
Bulmers: 6
Scrumpy Jack: 4
Received
Bulmers: 4
Scrumpy Jack: 4
Lesson for future UK visits: opt for shipping the cans even if the bottled tastes better.
Sarah A Wager, MB BS
+39 075 878 0642 or on the web at
www.photoempt.com
photoempt.smugmug.com
www.rjslade.com
and if you are interested in our italian cooking school here in Monte Castello di Vibio check out www.umbriacucina.com
For the first, I like the composition, though I feel myself wanting a smidge more breathing room for the boat on the left of the frame, likely because it's position is implying it's about to sail outside the border. Were the boat facing into the frame, I don't think the breathing room would catch my eye.
The foreground with the green algae and water feels like it could be brightened up a bit to bring out that marvelous green and rippled reflection. Boat exposure looks spot on.
Sarah A Wager, MB BS
+39 075 878 0642 or on the web at
www.photoempt.com
photoempt.smugmug.com
www.rjslade.com
and if you are interested in our italian cooking school here in Monte Castello di Vibio check out www.umbriacucina.com
Sarah, I like these two images! Wish the light was more favorable at the time, but it was beautiful nontheless.
Feel free to start a new thread with your next images so we can all take a fair whack!
Photos that don't suck / 365 / Film & Lomography
Sarah A Wager, MB BS
+39 075 878 0642 or on the web at
www.photoempt.com
photoempt.smugmug.com
www.rjslade.com
and if you are interested in our italian cooking school here in Monte Castello di Vibio check out www.umbriacucina.com
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MW on Facebook
Hi Marc- I do agree with you - I think I was in seventh heaven just being there in a beautiful landscape at the start of a promise of a wonderful week. When I stop to think about it, it is a time of day that I usually don't go out to photograph, and certainly the morning in the bluebell wood reinforced that sentiment. But it was still lovely and I think that the photos that everyone produced showed a creativity that can come from that kind of an inspiration of enthusiasm. It's a weird combination of the art and the science, I guess...
Sarah A Wager, MB BS
+39 075 878 0642 or on the web at
www.photoempt.com
photoempt.smugmug.com
www.rjslade.com
and if you are interested in our italian cooking school here in Monte Castello di Vibio check out www.umbriacucina.com
Oh no, you didn’t just say that... <img src="https://us.v-cdn.net/6029383/emoji/eek7.gif" border="0" alt="" >
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Marc you should know that shotting landscapes in the middle of the day is a crime and in some countries severely punishable.<o:p></o:p>
Joking aside I second Marc’s comments on directional light and I just want to add that in low angle light situations you can also have added sense of depth in your photographs.<o:p></o:p>
The tricky part is that with our eyes we see depth almost everywhere but our cameras don't see it that way.
"Whatever befalls the Earth befalls the sons and daughters of the Earth. We did not weave the web of life; We are merely a strand in it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselvs.." Chief Seattle
Ding ding ding!
I think that's the toughest point I wrestle with any time I'm out shooting with other photographers. You end up balancing opportunity (time) and the light. If only there was some way to travel and shoot only when the light is perfect! But we all know reality works nothing like that.
I distinctly remember (and made notes about) the fact that we came across some really beautiful areas at some very unfavorable times of the day. But what can you do? The chances to see these places only comes once or twice in a lifetime...
Photos that don't suck / 365 / Film & Lomography
....like the Sierras, Schmoo!
Sarah A Wager, MB BS
+39 075 878 0642 or on the web at
www.photoempt.com
photoempt.smugmug.com
www.rjslade.com
and if you are interested in our italian cooking school here in Monte Castello di Vibio check out www.umbriacucina.com
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Thanks for the reminder, Kerry! What with the loss of my computer for a week, I forgot about that!
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