PS/CS shadow/highlight to the rescue here. I used 23/70/30 on your B&W image. I'll bet if you do this before you convert to B&W you can get much better quality. What did you do to make the conversion? Perhaps there is some improvement available there as well. Have you read the old Photoshop forum assignment about B&W conversions? I learned a lot from that assignment. There is a lot more to it than you might think. If you can get it, read the chapter "Friend and Foe in Black and White" in Dan Margulis' Professional Photoshop book.
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At least the dog doesn't have nose hairs! HAHAHAHA! I do see a huge improvement, except in my ability to see the nose openings, so well and so big.
Other than that, it is 100% better, and I do like it!
Maybe you can tell him to hold his breath and close his nostrils. In photoshop, of course, .
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guys i'm heading to the bay area again for a few days tues night thru friday night. my dgrin time will be limited, i'll sign in when i get the chance.
i'm giving sid (wxwax) my proxy to resolve / answer any questions or issues that come up.
With Rutt's suggestions and some advice, this has been worked a bit. The only thing I didn't do was sharpen it. Will give that more thought. I want the women and diner to look a bit on the "down" side. So I think I might like this better than if I sharpened it.
Am going to put this version, I think improved, on The Challenge and sit over night on it.
With Rutt's suggestions and some advice, this has been worked a bit. The only thing I didn't do was sharpen it. Will give that more thought. I want the women and diner to look a bit on the "down" side. So I think I might like this better than if I sharpened it.
Am going to put this version, I think improved, on The Challenge and sit over night on it.
ginger
Ginger I think you are correct, the muted colors look better than a b&w would.
I also got this shot over the weekend. I'm not completely happy with the framing of the shot, but considering I nearly got sick taking this picture, I wasn't in a hurry to reshoot:
By the way, all three images were shot at 35mm.
Hehe, this shot makes me want to go weeeeeeeeeeeeeee, I love it!
Hey - another local! I wasn't able to make it to the show this weekend, but I had several spies there. this is a cool shot, but since this is a photoshop-ok challenge, i'd give it a little pop with some color enhancement. Good clarity and contrast already - nice!
Yup, and if you're into planes, you may want to think about Sept. 11th weekend to make a roadtrip to Maine. It's a haul, but it may provide for some excellent photo opportunities... http://www.seaplanefly-in.org/
I think I got this one it where I want it. Thanks for the pointers and feedback everyone.
SmiLe!!! There have been so many beautiful shots, that I thought I'd have a little fun.
Whenever you're riding in the car with my daughter SuMMer, you can well expect to have fun. We were sitting in traffic, waiting for a ship to cross under the bridge, and she began making faces at the other drivers... Heavens someone should be staring at her... Then she really makes faces... SmiLe, all.
Comments?
ginette
ginger... I really think your image of the two ladies in the diner with the Marilyn Monroe photo, is perfect. Dugmar... I think the airplane tail end is great... Love the contrast against the blue sky and clouds. Cletus... "Weeeee" is a great name for a fantastic shot!!! It's terrific!
"In the End, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends."
There have been so many beautiful shots, that I thought I'd have a little fun.
Whenever you're riding in the car with my daughter SuMMer, you can well expect to have fun. We were sitting in traffic, waiting for a ship to cross under the bridge, and she began making faces at the other drivers... Heavens someone should be staring at her... Then she really makes faces... SmiLe, all.
Comments?
ginette
ginger... I really think your image of the two ladies in the diner with the Marilyn Monroe photo, is perfect. Dugmar... I think the airplane tail end is great... Love the contrast against the blue sky and clouds. Cletus... "Weeeee" is a great name for a fantastic shot!!! It's terrific!
Thank you, Ginette. I think your daughter is pretty cool, too. Does she have a slight green cast? Never can tell with my monitor.
She could be a great entry! Different for someone not on an amusement park torture device.
I had a dog named Summer. Rehomed her in May, too many dogs, really, have the three now, good thing with all the photography I am doing. And they are in crates all the time I am gone.
So, tell your Summer how fortunate she is, no crate when you are gone?, and no chance of rehoming.
Great picture, smile. That is what it makes me do, smile. And we are up late again.
With Rutt's suggestions and some advice, this has been worked a bit. The only thing I didn't do was sharpen it. Will give that more thought. I want the women and diner to look a bit on the "down" side. So I think I might like this better than if I sharpened it.
Am going to put this version, I think improved, on The Challenge and sit over night on it.
ginger
I really think this is classic and works well in color, as is. Great job, Ginger.
I went out to play tonight. This first one made me weep; my lens "moves" a lot and I didn't notice it had crept out to 62mm. Could go back, I suppose.
this one was wide enough, but not nearly as compelling:
Old-style mailboxes for sale
and then one for dugmar, I can't resist this "horse on the porch" who was silver/gray but in the slanting last rays of the sun was golden along with his wagon.
I notice that Penleope's shot is after dark with artificial light and lots of deep black spaces ....... It, also, is a wide angle shot. Which do you think is more important for impact on the viewer, John? I know what I think...:D
No doubt she found a great scene and shot it under great light. But the wide angle composition is supurb as well. There is no strong foreground element, yet the picture isn't dull at all, quite the contrary. She is making negative space work which give the whole a containing simplicity and keeps the numerous elements from becoming a riot.
OK, I took it as a challenge. In this context the optimist looks a lot more optimisitc. What do you think?
Rutt, I think it is a good idea, in that the boat is well framed now. Is the sky from something else, or is it one of those that comes with a program?
It looks a bit too much like a sponge did it, like my daughter does her bathroom walls, but that may just be in my mind, since I saw it before. I think that framing is a good idea, and I would keep with it. (How about fog)
You know in layers there is a color pallette that is gradiated, it has fog, it also has some really good colors. Why don't you try one at a time. I did that for fun last week, .............. I know how that could be fun, I don't know. I had been reading a book, and if you hit on two keys at the same time, the thing changes and does something, so I was doing it. Plus that other thing.
I think the idea is very good, but not quite realized yet.
ginger
(Would you send me a copy of the window shot for my collection of personal favorites. I will hit on some other people, too.)
Gubbs? You come to mind. Your wife, reflected, green.
If you all sent me one of the ones I really like, I could start my own personal art gallery.
Lynnesite, I like all the toys from last night. Now that you have played a bit, why don't you enter the mother and foal. I know that someone is tired of horse shots, but I am not crazy about ................something. Race cars, etc.
You just happen to have taken advantage of that happening and took a really good horse shot, something that is your forte. I am proud that I know someone who takes those really good horse shots. They might not win all the time, but well, I would like a five by seven of the mother and foal.
You do have a pro site, I would imagine, I do, too, but my shots are very cheap, inexpensive. I would not think that others would be.
No doubt she found a great scene and shot it under great light. But the wide angle composition is supurb as well. There is no strong foreground element, yet the picture isn't dull at all, quite the contrary. She is making negative space work which give the whole a containing simplicity and keeps the numerous elements from becoming a riot.
Who is Penleope, and where is this shot?
Re this foreground element. well, I have used it in the mtns, may try to find a photo and scan it, from my old days, when no one had digital, and I could afford to go to the mtns. When I used it, it was often rocks in front of a waterfall, or trees to give perspective to a giant mtn. Etc. Can be used in a market, fruit and stuff works well.
But usually, IMO, it is used to enhance another element. It may be great, but it is only one way to shoot wide, IMO. One problem I might have with that right now is my lens is really not as wide as my lens used to be on the SLR. That lens allowed for more wide "screaming".
I do have an unentered wide angle, shot for this challenge, not entered, yet, that I will put up...............I really like it, and it does have a foreground element. It is kind of like Rutt's shot of his son. I will do it when I get a chance, am not awake. And another grey day, hope it burns off. Want to go to the market and get a "perfect" shot of little girls dancing, where I don't cut anyone off on the sidelines.
penelope duns, is your guest judge for this challenge. her shot is below mine in the main challenge thread, it was the winner over at the sony forum challenge, #70, "wide-angle"
OK, I took it as a challenge. In this context the optimist looks a lot more optimisitc. What do you think?
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what about something like this?
I remembered how everything was greenish before our storm. So I duplicated in layers, put a green, kind of a dead medium green, layer over it, and blended it in with color burn, took it down to a lower opacity, didn't write it down.
I kind of like this.
But it is the artist's call.
ginger/or anon depending on how you feel about someone messing with your photos. Oh, please don't be angry, and I didn't do anything about it, but it is possible that your image may be over sharpened. I did not bring it in large to look, but it might be.
penelope duns, is your guest judge for this challenge. her shot is below mine in the main challenge thread, it was the winner over at the sony forum challenge, #70, "wide-angle"
Thanks, Andy. That is a very memorable shot, fantastic, I don't even have to look it up. Loved it the first time I saw it.
Hello all
Well here goes, my first post. Exciting. I've been lurking for a bit courtesy of my friend dugmar. This is a great forum and I intend to participate as much as possible. I've been looking for good wide-angle moments since this challenge started and don't think I've had that magic moment yet, but here are some pics I've captured so far.
not quite full wide (29mm = 46mm on a canon 10D)
17mm = 27.2mm
17mm = 27.2mm
Some people are like Slinkies... not really good for anything, but you still can't help but smile when you see one tumble down the stairs.
Well here goes, my first post. Exciting. I've been lurking for a bit courtesy of my friend dugmar. This is a great forum and I intend to participate as much as possible. I've been looking for good wide-angle moments since this challenge started and don't think I've had that magic moment yet, but here are some pics I've captured so far.
not quite full wide (29mm = 46mm on a canon 10D)
17mm = 27.2mm
17mm = 27.2mm
Hi, Johnny. I like your shots, particularly the first one. Hope you enjoy it here, we are delighted to have new faces, er, photographers.
All right - I may have found a frame I like - I am sure it is not to everyone's tastes, but I find it compelling in a certain kind of way. It is in color and B&W so Rut and others can chose which they prefer. I am open to all sorts of honest criticism.
Well here goes, my first post. Exciting. I've been lurking for a bit courtesy of my friend dugmar. This is a great forum and I intend to participate as much as possible. I've been looking for good wide-angle moments since this challenge started and don't think I've had that magic moment yet, but here are some pics I've captured so far.
My man! Many of you may know John from his photodocumented trans-US and New Zealand motorcycle trips that I linked to here on Dgrin.com a few times.
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At least the dog doesn't have nose hairs! HAHAHAHA! I do see a huge improvement, except in my ability to see the nose openings, so well and so big.
Other than that, it is 100% better, and I do like it!
Maybe you can tell him to hold his breath and close his nostrils. In photoshop, of course,
ginger
guys i'm heading to the bay area again for a few days tues night thru friday night. my dgrin time will be limited, i'll sign in when i get the chance.
i'm giving sid (wxwax) my proxy to resolve / answer any questions or issues that come up.
keep shooting wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide!
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With Rutt's suggestions and some advice, this has been worked a bit. The only thing I didn't do was sharpen it. Will give that more thought. I want the women and diner to look a bit on the "down" side. So I think I might like this better than if I sharpened it.
Am going to put this version, I think improved, on The Challenge and sit over night on it.
ginger
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I think I got this one it where I want it. Thanks for the pointers and feedback everyone.
There have been so many beautiful shots, that I thought I'd have a little fun.
Whenever you're riding in the car with my daughter SuMMer, you can well expect to have fun. We were sitting in traffic, waiting for a ship to cross under the bridge, and she began making faces at the other drivers... Heavens someone should be staring at her... Then she really makes faces... SmiLe, all.
Comments?
ginette
ginger... I really think your image of the two ladies in the diner with the Marilyn Monroe photo, is perfect.
Dugmar... I think the airplane tail end is great... Love the contrast against the blue sky and clouds.
Cletus... "Weeeee" is a great name for a fantastic shot!!! It's terrific!
Thank you, Ginette. I think your daughter is pretty cool, too. Does she have a slight green cast? Never can tell with my monitor.
She could be a great entry! Different for someone not on an amusement park torture device.
I had a dog named Summer. Rehomed her in May, too many dogs, really, have the three now, good thing with all the photography I am doing. And they are in crates all the time I am gone.
So, tell your Summer how fortunate she is, no crate when you are gone?, and no chance of rehoming.
Great picture, smile. That is what it makes me do, smile. And we are up late again.
ginger
I really think this is classic and works well in color, as is. Great job, Ginger.
I went out to play tonight. This first one made me weep; my lens "moves" a lot and I didn't notice it had crept out to 62mm. Could go back, I suppose.
this one was wide enough, but not nearly as compelling:
Old-style mailboxes for sale
and then one for dugmar, I can't resist this "horse on the porch" who was silver/gray but in the slanting last rays of the sun was golden along with his wagon.
Lynne
off the hill for a change
Galleries here Upcoming Ranch/Horse Workshop
OK, I took it as a challenge. In this context the optimist looks a lot more optimisitc. What do you think?
It looks a bit too much like a sponge did it, like my daughter does her bathroom walls, but that may just be in my mind, since I saw it before. I think that framing is a good idea, and I would keep with it. (How about fog)
You know in layers there is a color pallette that is gradiated, it has fog, it also has some really good colors. Why don't you try one at a time. I did that for fun last week, .............. I know how that could be fun, I don't know. I had been reading a book, and if you hit on two keys at the same time, the thing changes and does something, so I was doing it. Plus that other thing.
I think the idea is very good, but not quite realized yet.
ginger
(Would you send me a copy of the window shot for my collection of personal favorites. I will hit on some other people, too.)
Gubbs? You come to mind. Your wife, reflected, green.
If you all sent me one of the ones I really like, I could start my own personal art gallery.
Lynnesite, I like all the toys from last night. Now that you have played a bit, why don't you enter the mother and foal. I know that someone is tired of horse shots, but I am not crazy about ................something. Race cars, etc.
You just happen to have taken advantage of that happening and took a really good horse shot, something that is your forte. I am proud that I know someone who takes those really good horse shots. They might not win all the time, but well, I would like a five by seven of the mother and foal.
You do have a pro site, I would imagine, I do, too, but my shots are very cheap, inexpensive. I would not think that others would be.
ginger again.
Time for coffee
Re this foreground element. well, I have used it in the mtns, may try to find a photo and scan it, from my old days, when no one had digital, and I could afford to go to the mtns. When I used it, it was often rocks in front of a waterfall, or trees to give perspective to a giant mtn. Etc. Can be used in a market, fruit and stuff works well.
But usually, IMO, it is used to enhance another element. It may be great, but it is only one way to shoot wide, IMO. One problem I might have with that right now is my lens is really not as wide as my lens used to be on the SLR. That lens allowed for more wide "screaming".
I do have an unentered wide angle, shot for this challenge, not entered, yet, that I will put up...............I really like it, and it does have a foreground element. It is kind of like Rutt's shot of his son. I will do it when I get a chance, am not awake. And another grey day, hope it burns off. Want to go to the market and get a "perfect" shot of little girls dancing, where I don't cut anyone off on the sidelines.
ginger
penelope duns, is your guest judge for this challenge. her shot is below mine in the main challenge thread, it was the winner over at the sony forum challenge, #70, "wide-angle"
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what about something like this?
I remembered how everything was greenish before our storm. So I duplicated in layers, put a green, kind of a dead medium green, layer over it, and blended it in with color burn, took it down to a lower opacity, didn't write it down.
I kind of like this.
But it is the artist's call.
ginger/or anon depending on how you feel about someone messing with your photos. Oh, please don't be angry, and I didn't do anything about it, but it is possible that your image may be over sharpened. I did not bring it in large to look, but it might be.
ginger
OK...........so you were not!
Great too variations on a shot. Do like the color one. Don't know what Rutt is thinking with LAB Curves, probably something good.
Great to have found your site. Maybe we should each name ours, mumble, mumble, mumble.
ginger
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Sorry, Lynn. I guess I was lost, didn't realize that you were on the official critique thread.
Still like your pictures!
Please disregard all the mumbles.
ginger
Well here goes, my first post. Exciting. I've been lurking for a bit courtesy of my friend dugmar. This is a great forum and I intend to participate as much as possible. I've been looking for good wide-angle moments since this challenge started and don't think I've had that magic moment yet, but here are some pics I've captured so far.
not quite full wide (29mm = 46mm on a canon 10D)
17mm = 27.2mm
17mm = 27.2mm
ginger
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