Thanks. None of those are quite like our filmstrip though but they are cool! I dunno what the hubbub is, honestly - maybe I'm just wired differently... i see the arrow pointing right, and I expect that if I want the photos to go rightwards, I'd touch the arrow....
Thanks. None of those are quite like our filmstrip though but they are cool! I dunno what the hubbub is, honestly - maybe I'm just wired differently... i see the arrow pointing right, and I expect that if I want the photos to go rightwards, I'd touch the arrow....
Thanks again for your input, winn!
well... when I see the right arrow, I wanna "go that way" which involves scrolling the strip the other way...
it is easy enough to get used to, that was just my initial/natural expectaion
Thanks. None of those are quite like our filmstrip though but they are cool! I dunno what the hubbub is, honestly - maybe I'm just wired differently...
Maybe because it's backwards from all Windows and Mac scrolling widgets - probably the most used scrolling paradigm. In those examples, you click on an arrow to see more in that direction, not to make things move in that direction.
Thanks. None of those are quite like our filmstrip though but they are cool! I dunno what the hubbub is, honestly - maybe I'm just wired differently... i see the arrow pointing right, and I expect that if I want the photos to go rightwards, I'd touch the arrow....
Thanks again for your input, winn!
When you look at a scroll bar on a word document, do you think, "I'd like the text to move down, so I'll click the one the down arrow"?
Thanks. None of those are quite like our filmstrip though but they are cool! I dunno what the hubbub is, honestly - maybe I'm just wired differently... i see the arrow pointing right, and I expect that if I want the photos to go rightwards, I'd touch the arrow....
Thanks again for your input, winn!
And i must say, smugmug's filmstrip is kewl. There is just a little mismatch of user intention and screen interaction:
-Say the images in the strip move to the left.
-I see an image that is about to disappear on the left side, behind the arrow, or i saw an image before that did disappear on the left a little while ago.
-My mouse moves towards that image, i.e. my mouse moves to the left. It's almost like trying to catch it before it disappears.
-When my mouse hits the arrow, the images start scrolling even faster to the left. -To retrieve the image, i first have to move to the right arrow, stay there a little while and then to the left again to select the image.
The last step is a little awkward.
(I'd suggest putting a right-pointing arrow on the left side and a left-pointing arrow on the right side)
I agree that the filmstrip seems backwards, but that's because we've all been tainted by how regular scrollbars work. Technically the filmstrip isn't a scrollbar, but it's similar enough looking (arrows on each end) that we think of it like a scrollbar.
I agree that the filmstrip seems backwards, but that's because we've all been tainted by how regular scrollbars work. Technically the filmstrip isn't a scrollbar, but it's similar enough looking (arrows on each end) that we think of it like a scrollbar.
For user interface perception is reality. If the user thinks it should work like a scroll bar, then it can only be fixed by either:
1) Making it work like a scrollbar (change feature to match the perception)
or
2) Changing the UI of the feature so nobody thinks it should work like a scroll bar (change perception to match the feature).
Pop-up window size
Both in IE6 and Firefox the size of the popup window is to small so that both scroll bars appear resulting in a slight need to scroll to see the full image.
Hi John,
I'm not referring to any pop-up window, I'm referring to viewing in SmugMug Style, like you mentioned above. There's no popup when you click on "large" for example in the gallery I linked in my reply..
Just want to be clear. And also to state that the preferred viewing style dropdown does indeed work, you can change to small, med, etc.
Now I'll read the res of your above post.
Andy, I was wondering if there was ever any sort of response to this post (Seven problems with "preferred viewing size"). I went to great detail to try to document where all the inconsistencies are in that popup and it sounds like you were going to read it and think about it, but then the holidays hit and it seems like it just scrolled off the list and the thread continued with all the other things that end up in the bug reporting thread and nothing more about this issue.
Andy, I was wondering if there was ever any sort of response to this post (Seven problems with "preferred viewing size"). I went to great detail to try to document where all the inconsistencies are in that popup and it sounds like you were going to read it and think about it, but then the holidays hit and it seems like it just scrolled off the list and the thread continued with all the other things that end up in the bug reporting thread and nothing more about this issue.
It has not scrolled off the list - JT and Onethumb have seen it. So has our product manager, Ben. When they want to comment and have something relative to say on it, I'm sure they will.
Thanks again for taking the time to make that post, and this one. It's really very valuable feedback - and we appreciate it.
John,
I would like to thank you for the time you put in to that post, it is very obvious that you spent a lot of time thinking about every aspect of the problem. We have not overlooked the post, but have been working on other things since the holidays were over. I will bring up the points you made with everyone and we will see what can be done about it. No promises though on if and when any changes will be made
Andy, I was wondering if there was ever any sort of response to this post (Seven problems with "preferred viewing size"). I went to great detail to try to document where all the inconsistencies are in that popup and it sounds like you were going to read it and think about it, but then the holidays hit and it seems like it just scrolled off the list and the thread continued with all the other things that end up in the bug reporting thread and nothing more about this issue.
John,
I would like to thank you for the time you put in to that post, it is very obvious that you spent a lot of time thinking about every aspect of the problem. We have not overlooked the post, but have been working on other things since the holidays were over. I will bring up the points you made with everyone and we will see what can be done about it. No promises though on if and when any changes will be made
JT
Thanks for the update. I just wanted to make sure the thinking didn't get lost and at least got looked at (which it sounds like it has). In the end, it's up to you to prioritize it relative to the other things you are working on.
Thanks for the update. I just wanted to make sure the thinking didn't get lost and at least got looked at (which it sounds like it has). In the end, it's up to you to prioritize it relative to the other things you are working on.
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bug or feature?
It is known (and commonly a complaint) that when you go to sort galleries, ALL (153 in my case) your galleries are displayed, not just the ones in the category you are working on.
But I was very surprised to see that when I was viewing a SUB-category, I hit organize galleries and only the galleries IN THAT sub-category were displayed! wow.
This was category FAMILY, and a sub-category BIRTHDAYS
I was afraid to actually sort them here since I have all my galleries sorted in such a way that I like my homepage and I don't want that messed up.
I thought maybe you guys had just recently enhanced the gallery sort feature, but I tried gallery sort from a CATEGORY and all 153 galleries were displayed. :cry
Recently I noticed that feeds are listed as google search results - they are sometimes even shown as top result and as the only result with a clickable link attached in order to show other hits.
I noticed this with keywords only - Example
The odd thing is that in the English google the feed isn't listed first - same example.
My point in posting this in the bug thread is that feeds shouldn't be allowed being indexed by google or is there a logic behind to do this?
Today I noticed a small bug. I'm copying several of my geotagged pictures to a single site and I noticed that upon doing a "Make 2nd copy" the geographic data is lost.
The other data like caption is preserved so I guess this is a bug
Today I noticed a small bug. I'm copying several of my geotagged pictures to a single site and I noticed that upon doing a "Make 2nd copy" the geographic data is lost.
The other data like caption is preserved so I guess this is a bug
Carlos
Thanks. I tried it too, behavior validated. I'll report this to our engineering team!
What happened to the html-code parser for the gallery description when browsing through global smugmug galleries?
My 'New Year's eve 2005/2006' gallery in friends does have this as the image-alt-tag for it's thumb:
alt="New Year's eve 2005/2006 : <html><span class=ger>Silvester 2005/2006</span><img src="http://rainhome.de/tracking/silvester05.gif" width=0></html>"
The source code for displaying the titel and description of the gallery is even worse:
You filtered the <html>-tag, but there's still a complete span-tag and a corrupt img-tag, which wasn't parsed out.
Currently the gallery is on this position in the global friends category.
Hope you can find the little bugger as it for sure affects more than only my one gallery.
What happened to the html-code parser for the gallery description when browsing through global smugmug galleries?
My 'New Year's eve 2005/2006' gallery in friends does have this as the image-alt-tag for it's thumb:
alt="New Year's eve 2005/2006 : <html><span class=ger>Silvester 2005/2006</span><img src="http://rainhome.de/tracking/silvester05.gif" width=0></html>"
The source code for displaying the titel and description of the gallery is even worse:
You filtered the <html>-tag, but there's still a complete span-tag and a corrupt img-tag, which wasn't parsed out.
Currently the gallery is on this position in the global friends category.
Hope you can find the little bugger as it for sure affects more than only my one gallery.
Sebastian
Dunno - nothing, as far as I'm aware - I'll let JT know!
Sebastian - try changing the 2005/2006 to 2005-2006. Does this help the situation?
Andy, I did now try some combinations - 05-06 instead of using the slash, removing the apostrophe, removing my span-tag. I ended up leaving out 2006. But the gallery description is still not parsed correctly, always leaving my img-tag and span-tag in there.
I can tell by looking at the source code that the browse page has not been updated to the new css and code, so all bets are off when galleries are viewed from there
I will add it to the list of pages that need updating.
Empty Cart bug?
I noticed that if you empty your cart there is no link that I can find to go back to viewing pictures. Seems to me there should be a "continue shopping" button to go back to the gallery where the user was last browsing. Or am I missing something?
Regards,
Jon
I noticed that if you empty your cart there is no link that I can find to go back to viewing pictures. Seems to me there should be a "continue shopping" button to go back to the gallery where the user was last browsing. Or am I missing something?
Regards,
Jon
It's not a bug, it's the way it has been. You and many others have voiced their opinions on this, and we really appreciate you telling us this.
I can tell by looking at the source code that the browse page has not been updated to the new css and code, so all bets are off when galleries are viewed from there
I will add it to the list of pages that need updating.
I take this as a it's not worth messing around with the old code. That's fine with me as it's no pressing matter for me.
Not able to organize galleries
I tried to do what the FAQ says. I clicked on the sort by position, instead of the organize tool coming it takes me to the Category page i.e. one level up. This doesnt look right. What am I doing wrong or is there something wrong with the tool ?
I tried to do what the FAQ says. I clicked on the sort by position, instead of the organize tool coming it takes me to the Category page i.e. one level up. This doesnt look right. What am I doing wrong or is there something wrong with the tool ?
hmmm...i'm getting similar behavior. I can click the "by position" link on my categories box on my homepage and i get the "organize" option. however when i click "by position" on any of my category pages, it just reloads the page without switching to actually being organized by position.
I tried to do what the FAQ says. I clicked on the sort by position, instead of the organize tool coming it takes me to the Category page i.e. one level up. This doesnt look right. What am I doing wrong or is there something wrong with the tool ?
Not a bug, as near as I can tell. You first have to click on "position" for categories, too.. THEN you can organize subcats by position .. try it?
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Here's a smugmug user:
http://www.photocraftz.com/
click on galleries
http://www.donjonesphotography.com/Work.asp?cat=People
http://www.waltpalmer.com/Images/Dines-Miller%20Album/index.htm
http://www.veritaz.com/portfolio
-winn
Thanks. None of those are quite like our filmstrip though
Thanks again for your input, winn!
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well... when I see the right arrow, I wanna "go that way" which involves scrolling the strip the other way...
it is easy enough to get used to, that was just my initial/natural expectaion
Maybe because it's backwards from all Windows and Mac scrolling widgets - probably the most used scrolling paradigm. In those examples, you click on an arrow to see more in that direction, not to make things move in that direction.
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-winn
And i must say, smugmug's filmstrip is kewl. There is just a little mismatch of user intention and screen interaction:
-Say the images in the strip move to the left.
-I see an image that is about to disappear on the left side, behind the arrow, or i saw an image before that did disappear on the left a little while ago.
-My mouse moves towards that image, i.e. my mouse moves to the left. It's almost like trying to catch it before it disappears.
-When my mouse hits the arrow, the images start scrolling even faster to the left.
-To retrieve the image, i first have to move to the right arrow, stay there a little while and then to the left again to select the image.
The last step is a little awkward.
(I'd suggest putting a right-pointing arrow on the left side and a left-pointing arrow on the right side)
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in two billion years,
all I can think is:
"Will that be on a Monday?"
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For user interface perception is reality. If the user thinks it should work like a scroll bar, then it can only be fixed by either:
1) Making it work like a scrollbar (change feature to match the perception)
or
2) Changing the UI of the feature so nobody thinks it should work like a scroll bar (change perception to match the feature).
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Both in IE6 and Firefox the size of the popup window is to small so that both scroll bars appear resulting in a slight need to scroll to see the full image.
Sebastian
SmugMug Support Hero
Andy, I was wondering if there was ever any sort of response to this post (Seven problems with "preferred viewing size"). I went to great detail to try to document where all the inconsistencies are in that popup and it sounds like you were going to read it and think about it, but then the holidays hit and it seems like it just scrolled off the list and the thread continued with all the other things that end up in the bug reporting thread and nothing more about this issue.
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It has not scrolled off the list - JT and Onethumb have seen it. So has our product manager, Ben. When they want to comment and have something relative to say on it, I'm sure they will.
Thanks again for taking the time to make that post, and this one. It's really very valuable feedback - and we appreciate it.
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I would like to thank you for the time you put in to that post, it is very obvious that you spent a lot of time thinking about every aspect of the problem. We have not overlooked the post, but have been working on other things since the holidays were over. I will bring up the points you made with everyone and we will see what can be done about it. No promises though on if and when any changes will be made
JT
Thanks for the update. I just wanted to make sure the thinking didn't get lost and at least got looked at (which it sounds like it has). In the end, it's up to you to prioritize it relative to the other things you are working on.
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Thanks again.
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It is known (and commonly a complaint) that when you go to sort galleries, ALL (153 in my case) your galleries are displayed, not just the ones in the category you are working on.
But I was very surprised to see that when I was viewing a SUB-category, I hit organize galleries and only the galleries IN THAT sub-category were displayed! wow.
This was category FAMILY, and a sub-category BIRTHDAYS
I was afraid to actually sort them here since I have all my galleries sorted in such a way that I like my homepage and I don't want that messed up.
I thought maybe you guys had just recently enhanced the gallery sort feature, but I tried gallery sort from a CATEGORY and all 153 galleries were displayed. :cry
just an FYI at this point
I noticed this with keywords only - Example
The odd thing is that in the English google the feed isn't listed first - same example.
My point in posting this in the bug thread is that feeds shouldn't be allowed being indexed by google or is there a logic behind to do this?
Thanks,
Sebastian
SmugMug Support Hero
Hi
Today I noticed a small bug. I'm copying several of my geotagged pictures to a single site and I noticed that upon doing a "Make 2nd copy" the geographic data is lost.
The other data like caption is preserved so I guess this is a bug
Carlos
Thanks. I tried it too, behavior validated. I'll report this to our engineering team!
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Hi Andy
Thanks for the fast answer. I love Smugmug's fast reaction times :-)
Carlos
My 'New Year's eve 2005/2006' gallery in friends does have this as the image-alt-tag for it's thumb: The source code for displaying the titel and description of the gallery is even worse: You filtered the <html>-tag, but there's still a complete span-tag and a corrupt img-tag, which wasn't parsed out.
Currently the gallery is on this position in the global friends category.
Hope you can find the little bugger as it for sure affects more than only my one gallery.
Sebastian
SmugMug Support Hero
Dunno - nothing, as far as I'm aware - I'll let JT know!
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Sebastian - try changing the 2005/2006 to 2005-2006. Does this help the situation?
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Thanks for your help,
Sebastian
SmugMug Support Hero
I will add it to the list of pages that need updating.
JT
I noticed that if you empty your cart there is no link that I can find to go back to viewing pictures. Seems to me there should be a "continue shopping" button to go back to the gallery where the user was last browsing. Or am I missing something?
Regards,
Jon
It's not a bug, it's the way it has been. You and many others have voiced their opinions on this, and we really appreciate you telling us this.
Stay tuned...
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Thanks,
Sebastian
SmugMug Support Hero
I tried to do what the FAQ says. I clicked on the sort by position, instead of the organize tool coming it takes me to the Category page i.e. one level up. This doesnt look right. What am I doing wrong or is there something wrong with the tool ?
hmmm...i'm getting similar behavior. I can click the "by position" link on my categories box on my homepage and i get the "organize" option. however when i click "by position" on any of my category pages, it just reloads the page without switching to actually being organized by position.
i'm moving this over to the bug reports thread.
Not a bug, as near as I can tell. You first have to click on "position" for categories, too.. THEN you can organize subcats by position
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