The Great Nikon vs. Canon Debate

mynakedsoda

The point seems lost on many that Nikon and Canon share manafacturing/ design expertise from time to time. One example is the Canon Lens Cleaner Mark 1 prototype developed by Nikon.
http://www.cameraquest.com/lenscln.htm

Frog Lady

personal attack???

DanielB wrote:

could be a curse too, people who spend times scraping cells of frogs and photographing them most likely are failures, live life with their mothers, won't come out of the closet, and have a non-existant social life.

As the resident frog cell scraping photographer around here, I take personal affront with this remark:cry Most (but I do freely admit, not all) of us biological "academia nuts" (to quote my husband) do not resemble this remark; we may have some eccentricities, but we are as likely to be mothers (or fathers) than live at home with them (that was only through grad school 'cuz of the cheap rent). Our gatherings after seminars are fully equipped with the finest fermentation products that yeast can provide (uh, that's beer) which lead to some amazingly humorous science related stories. And that's only the start of our social life

And how many of you have taken a picture at 3000x of steel wool that looks like the tongue that graced the Rolling Stones album of yore

cheers,

Dr. Frog Lady (and proud of it:D )

DoctorIt

Frog Lady wrote:

As the resident frog cell scraping photographer around here, I take personal affront with this remark:cry Most (but I do freely admit, not all) of us biological "academia nuts" (to quote my husband) do not resemble this remark; we may have some eccentricities, but we are as likely to be mothers (or fathers) than live at home with them (that was only through grad school 'cuz of the cheap rent). Our gatherings after seminars are fully equipped with the finest fermentation products that yeast can provide (uh, that's beer) which lead to some amazingly humorous science related stories. And that's only the start of our social life

And how many of you have taken a picture at 3000x of steel wool that looks like the tongue that graced the Rolling Stones album of yore

cheers,

Dr. Frog Lady (and proud of it:D )

are you a frog-cell scraper who happens to enjoy photography as well, or do you actually get to photograph the frog-cell scraping?

Just curious as a fellow closet living dr type

and if the answer is the latter, care to share your scientific images?

gus

Canon are better

zigzag

Justiceiro wrote:

....Seriously though, as a company that kind of puts itself forward as the king of wide angle, why does nikon not have a full frame sensor?

A) Never heard Nikon call itself that, but...
There are problems with Canon's 35mm-size 'full frame' DSLR sensor when accompanied by a wide-angle lens. While the 35-mm size worked fine for WA using film, with digital sensors the 'wells' are actually 3-dimensional. And a wide angle lens tends to send the light in more at an angle. See the problem?

Nikon's DX 10.5mm f/2.8 fisheye and DX 12-24 f/4.0 zoom don't share this problem, because they only have to hit the smaller sensor. Nice, eh?




More 'normal' smiley included so the mods don't go heavy with me again ;-)

Mongrel

Temptation got the best of me, I just had to chime in...

zigzag wrote:

There are problems with Canon's 35mm-size 'full frame' DSLR sensor when accompanied by a wide-angle lens.

Yep, Canon full frame sensor (1Ds II in this case) and wide angle lens are total crap....

Check out these links....

16mm:

http://www.moonriverphotography.com/gallery/575501/2/28383498/Large

28mm:

http://www.moonriverphotography.com/gallery/575501/3/28385852/Large

17mm:

http://www.moonriverphotography.com/gallery/575501/3/28405042/Large

15mm:

http://www.moonriverphotography.com/gallery/634937/1/25324442/Large


35mm:

http://www.moonriverphotography.com/gallery/634937/1/25933107/Large

16mm:

http://www.moonriverphotography.com/gallery/634937/1/24645329/Large

Trust me, I could go on, and on, and on........



NOTE: ALL LINKED SHOTS ABOVE TAKEN BY OUR VERY OWN ANDY WILLIAMS .

(I hope you don't mind Andy....)

Justiceiro

zigzag wrote:

A) Never heard Nikon call itself that, but...

I've always heard that Nikon's wide angle lenses are generally better than canon's, and that canon edges out nikon in the telephoto department. Unfortunately I have never had the cash to test this for myself.

DoctorIt

Humungus wrote:

Canon are better

that's kinda like: tastes great!

Andy

Mongrel wrote:

Yep, Canon full frame sensor (1Ds II in this case) and wide angle lens are total crap....

16mm:

http://www.moonriverphotography.com/gallery/634937/1/24645329/Large

(I hope you don't mind Andy....)

I don't mind! And, my wife was perusing my galleries, and just asked for a 20x30 of that last shot you linked!

Mongrel

Andy wrote:

I don't mind! And, my wife was perusing my galleries, and just asked for a 20x30 of that last shot you linked!

hmmm....do I get a 'finders fee'


re: shot....

Definately one of your best. I really dig that one myself

Take care Andy,

Mongrel

ziggy53

The Great Nikon vs. Canon Debate
The Great Nikon vs. Canon Debate

Y'know, I forget. Who won? (Just trying to start something.)

... Or, did we all learn something, thus we all won? (Naw, can't be that simple.)



I'm sure someone will enlighten me.

ziggy53

DanielB

Frog Lady wrote:

As the resident frog cell scraping photographer around here, I take personal affront with this remark:cry Most (but I do freely admit, not all) of us biological "academia nuts" (to quote my husband) do not resemble this remark; we may have some eccentricities, but we are as likely to be mothers (or fathers) than live at home with them (that was only through grad school 'cuz of the cheap rent). Our gatherings after seminars are fully equipped with the finest fermentation products that yeast can provide (uh, that's beer) which lead to some amazingly humorous science related stories. And that's only the start of our social life

And how many of you have taken a picture at 3000x of steel wool that looks like the tongue that graced the Rolling Stones album of yore

cheers,

Dr. Frog Lady (and proud of it:D )

glad to hear it of course i'm sure you all know i was merely jesting but its good to know that some people listen to what i say:D

ian408

DanielB wrote:

glad to hear it of course i'm sure you all know i was merely jesting but its good to know that some people listen to what i say:D

Hey man, your an eighth grader. You already know everything, right

I'm still waiting for my slice of the cake...

DanielB

I'm still waiting for my slice of the cake...

that one i made?

http://dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=27355

ian408 wrote:

Hey man, your an eighth grader. You already know everything, right

if i had a nickel for everytime i heard that line, i'd be able to buy me a 1Ds II

Owen

You have sort of taken over the board. If for everyone of your useless posts I got x amount of dollars, I could buy a 1Ds Mark II, too. On the net we call people like you post whores... but I don't think that's appropriate for Dgrin.

Sorry to jack the thread.

ian408

DanielB wrote:

that one i made?

Your cake was bad? Hmmm...go for the cobbler next time. It's easier and
it tastes better. Blueberry/Lime is a good combination.

DanielB wrote:

if i had a nickel for everytime i heard that line, i'd be able to buy me a 1Ds II

hahahaha! But would you use it? Now that's the question

DanielB

Owen wrote:

You have sort of taken over the board. If for everyone of your useless posts I got x amount of dollars, I could buy a 1Ds Mark II, too. On the net we call people like you post whores... but I don't think that's appropriate for Dgrin.

Sorry to jack the thread.

i'm a teenager bitten by the photography bug:photo what was i to do? sit there in class and listen to my teacher babble on and on and on in study hall when i have a laptop in front of me with internet access?

i think not.




and yes, i'm an admitted forum/smiley whore:andy
(drIt's trying to help me)

DoctorIt

DanielB wrote:

and yes, i'm an admitted forum/smiley whore:andy
(drIt's trying to help me)

Yeah, and I thought maybe we were getting somewhere. Nope, 3 smiley's in that post!!!

Go take a lap.

DanielB

DoctorIt wrote:

Yeah, and I thought maybe we were getting somewhere. Nope, 3 smiley's in that post!!!

Go take a lap.

...it was 1 in the morning. i needed something to wake me up

davemj98

HaHa
: you guys are funny!

DanielB

davemj98 wrote:

: you guys are funny!

anything for a laugh?:uhoh

DanielB

DanielB wrote:

and yes, i'm an admitted forum/smiley whore:andy
(drIt's trying to help me)

check out my new avatar line-thingy

DoctorIt

DanielB wrote:

check out my new avatar line-thingy

i'm so glad you can't put smiley's in an avatar line.

ian408

DanielB wrote:

check out my new avatar line-thingy

Just a quick point to make. You're not "under" recovery, you are "in"
recovery. Just sayin.

rutt

I'm thinking Daniel is showing real talent, especially for one so young. Let's see:

• Prolific and gratuitous use of emoticons
• Feels the need to answer almost every post
• Willing to speculate in the absence of knowledge
• Tone indicates he knows whether or not he does
• Answers serious questions with emoticons or nonanswers

Hmm...

Justiceiro

rutt wrote:

I'm thinking Daniel is showing real talent, especially for one so young. Let's see:

• Prolific and gratuitous use of emoticons
• Feels the need to answer almost every post
• Willing to speculate in the absence of knowledge
• Tone indicates he knows whether or not he does
• Answers serious questions with emoticons or nonanswers

Hmm...

Sounds like a typical Nikon shooter to me.

zigzag

Justiceiro wrote:

Sounds like a typical Nikon shooter to me.

:bigbs

Daniel Bauer
www.StandOutphoto.smugmug.com

Canon 10D
BG-ED3 vertical Grip
Canon 28-105 f/3.5-4.5 II USM
Canon 50 1.8 II
some photoflood lights.


*coming later this year*
a Sweet wide-angle
a 70-200 of some sort
a 580EX

YAH! I got to use the BS flag! I always wanted to use that one!

ivar

Justiceiro wrote:

Sounds like a typical Nikon shooter to me.

Now THAT's my kind of humor

DoctorIt

rutt wrote:

I'm thinking Daniel is showing real talent, especially for one so young. Let's see:

• Prolific and gratuitous use of emoticons
• Feels the need to answer almost every post
• Willing to speculate in the absence of knowledge
• Tone indicates he knows whether or not he does
• Answers serious questions with emoticons or nonanswers

Hmm...

Rutt, why is it that no one but me gets this? What does that say about me?

zigzag

ivar wrote:

Now THAT's my kind of humor

Hmm,

Keeps piling on and high-fiving others of his kind even after it's been pointed out that the facts they're touting are actually incorrect.


Sounds like a Canon shooter to me.



(Still your kind of humor? )