Because the camshafts have delayed my build, I was given this loaner since the date the car was supposed to be ready was also a I need to have a car starting then date. It's pretty cool (1987 560SEC)
What do you think about those bitchin cool keyless keys
I always thought it was convenience that you didn't need to use the key.
That is until I learned that that key only works with the IR and you can't
start the car without IR. And worse, if the DAS encryption stuff dies,
you'll be out for a new EIS (about $1300 plus the green key that comes
from the fatherland...). Yeeouch!
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What do you think about those bitchin cool keyless keys
I always thought it was convenience that you didn't need to use the key.
That is until I learned that that key only works with the IR and you can't
start the car without IR. And worse, if the DAS encryption stuff dies,
you'll be out for a new EIS (about $1300 plus the green key that comes
from the fatherland...). Yeeouch!
Weird, is that like the keyless entry on my Prius? If the battery dies in the fob, then I just stick it in a slot, and it works fine.
The Wikipedia explains it better than I could. Is it pretty much the same system?
An option called the Smart Key System (SKS) eliminates the traditional ignition key. The "smart key," which resembles a conventional keyless entry remote, has buttons to remotely lock and unlock the door, as well as trigger the alarm system. It is not necessary to use any of the buttons to utilize the SKS system. Approaching to within one meter of the car while in possession of the key (even inside a pocket or purse) causes the interior dome lights to fade in (if the switches are at the DOOR position). When the person with the key in their possession touches the inside of either of the front door handless, or the rear hatchback door handle, that door (or more) is immediately unlocked and can be opened. There are three settings in which the Smart Key System (SKS) can operate with: driver's door unlocking mode, single door unlocking mode, and all doors unlocking mode. Once inside, the car may be started by pushing the "POWER" button while depressing the brake pedal, with the fob still safely tucked away inside your pocket or purse. To stop the car, push the "POWER" button again. Once parked, the car can be locked by a pushing a black button on the exterior door handle. The SKS system will detect keys left inside the vehicle when powered-off, and will not allow the vehicle to be locked in this situation.
There is no conventional ignition switch which needs to be turned to start the Prius, that function having been replaced by a simple round "POWER" button on the dashboard. With the SKS models, the driver only needs to sit down inside the vehicle (with the fob in their possession), press the brake with their foot and push the "POWER" button to start the vehicle. On cars which are not equipped with SKS, the driver uses the lock/unlock buttons on the fob, and puts the remote fob into a slot in the dash to allow the car to start.
What do you think about those bitchin cool keyless keys
I always thought it was convenience that you didn't need to use the key.
That is until I learned that that key only works with the IR and you can't
start the car without IR. And worse, if the DAS encryption stuff dies,
you'll be out for a new EIS (about $1300 plus the green key that comes
from the fatherland...). Yeeouch!
I'm guessing you're referring to how I said this about that Type R ""Naw, since when have the people of the present day cared about function? Let's put a start button on it too, since that makes so much sense in a road car, plus, it's one more thing that can go wrong and leave you stranded!111!!!!!!111""
I think my philosophy on how a car should be can be summed up by this example: when at the MB dealership one of the salesmen was checking out my car. We got to talking about cars and then he said, hey, lemme show you something really cool, we have an SLR-McLaren. So I was looking at that and then something caught my eye and I went "WHOA." It was a mint condition 1989 560SL red on palomino. When he told me it had never been sold and was not for sale but simply a display piece, suddenly that SLR-McLaren seemed like an insignificant hunk of junk.
MB uses a combination RF, IR and key. IR or RF or the key can be used to
unlock the door. But you must insert the key fob into the ignition to start
the car. For that, only IR is used. So in that sense, it's similar but not the
same as SKS. If the battery in the fob fails for any reason, you can't start
the car. The fob is also like one of those RSA keys you use to generate a
password. When you stick the fob in the ignition, electronic keys are
exchanged and if successful, the key will turn and you can (hopefully)
start the car.
The idea is pretty slick but it makes the car so much more complex that
simple roadside diagnosis is pretty hard and towing is not out of the
question
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MB uses a combination RF, IR and key. IR or RF or the key can be used to
unlock the door. But you must insert the key fob into the ignition to start
the car. For that, only IR is used. So in that sense, it's similar but not the
same as SKS. If the battery in the fob fails for any reason, you can't start
the car. The fob is also like one of those RSA keys you use to generate a
password. When you stick the fob in the ignition, electronic keys are
exchanged and if successful, the key will turn and you can (hopefully)
start the car.
The idea is pretty slick but it makes the car so much more complex that
simple roadside diagnosis is pretty hard and towing is not out of the
question
Now, what I do like are actual keys that have embedded computer chips (like what BMW was using in the late 90's). The cars are basically impossible to steal, but the battery needs significantly less juice to work (just about nothing) and the keys/ignitions are not so expensive.
I'm guessing you're referring to how I said this about that Type R ""Naw, since when have the people of the present day cared about function? Let's put a start button on it too, since that makes so much sense in a road car, plus, it's one more thing that can go wrong and leave you stranded!111!!!!!!111"".
Nah. I think I mentioned a buddy bought a '02 E55 AMG (I hope I got that
right). We spent the other day trying to make it go. Had to eventually
tow it to the dealer where it awaits the green key...
I think it really helps illustrate your point though.
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Now, what I do like are actual keys that have embedded computer chips (like what BMW was using in the late 90's). The cars are basically impossible to steal, but the battery needs significantly less juice to work (just about nothing) and the keys/ignitions are not so expensive.
Yes. Newer BMW motorcycles read the chip installed in the key too. Again,
if that fails or you break it off (as can happen when you drop a GS), she
won't start captain
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Nah. I think I mentioned a buddy bought a '02 E55 AMG (I hope I got that
right). We spent the other day trying to make it go. Had to eventually
tow it to the dealer where it awaits the green key...
I think it really helps illustrate your point though.
Umm...I don't remember you mentioning that. Well...when the key gets in it'll be fun though.
'spike, that SEC is bitchin! My best friend in high school got to borrow his dad's for our junior prom. the lack of B-pillar makes it feel like a convertible with the windows and moonroof open, only much stiffer and lighter.
Runs and drives nice enough to keep my sister asleep in the back the whole way to Andy's.
The kids of the girl who's living with me (oy vey) always sleep in the car too. My ex would always sleep in the van whenever it took us more than 15 minutes to get somewhere.
The point you ask?
Kids and women can sleep anywhere, especially if they wanna avoid talking to you. SO how does it really run?
Ok, you want to know how it really runs? I’ll be honest with you.
I replaced the serpentine belt and now it squeaks, yes I tightened the tensioner all the way. The car smokes like hell when I start it up; this is probably due to worn valve guides. At idle, there is a slight shake, this is either from a bad engine mount or a misfire. And lastly it leaks a quart of oil a day from what looks to be the oil pan. I bet my dumb ‘friend’ forgot to put on the oil pan gasket because it literally leaks like a sieve.
Other than that, its quiet, has lots of power, and everything works as it should.
Zac, you see the ride I'm rolling in while waiting for my car? Last night the alternator belt snapped on me, so...I drove to the movie theater (with lights, heater, wiper, stereo) about 8 miles away, saw a movie, drove back, then this morning (before my morning flight) drove to NAPA and changed the alternator belt in the pouring rain in 44F weather. Fun fun fun.
It really made me appreciate the ergonomic handles on my ratchet set though. Even though my tools were drenched (and I was drenched) and it was cold as heck, it wasn't slippery and it didn't feel like cold metal. Those Italians know what they're doing.
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Um, that was a mini bus, and it schooled those other cars. My world is now upside down, right must be wrong, I feel so lost.
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What do you think about those bitchin cool keyless keys
I always thought it was convenience that you didn't need to use the key.
That is until I learned that that key only works with the IR and you can't
start the car without IR. And worse, if the DAS encryption stuff dies,
you'll be out for a new EIS (about $1300 plus the green key that comes
from the fatherland...). Yeeouch!
Weird, is that like the keyless entry on my Prius? If the battery dies in the fob, then I just stick it in a slot, and it works fine.
The Wikipedia explains it better than I could. Is it pretty much the same system?
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I'm guessing you're referring to how I said this about that Type R ""Naw, since when have the people of the present day cared about function? Let's put a start button on it too, since that makes so much sense in a road car, plus, it's one more thing that can go wrong and leave you stranded!111!!!!!!111""
I think my philosophy on how a car should be can be summed up by this example: when at the MB dealership one of the salesmen was checking out my car. We got to talking about cars and then he said, hey, lemme show you something really cool, we have an SLR-McLaren. So I was looking at that and then something caught my eye and I went "WHOA." It was a mint condition 1989 560SL red on palomino. When he told me it had never been sold and was not for sale but simply a display piece, suddenly that SLR-McLaren seemed like an insignificant hunk of junk.
MB uses a combination RF, IR and key. IR or RF or the key can be used to
unlock the door. But you must insert the key fob into the ignition to start
the car. For that, only IR is used. So in that sense, it's similar but not the
same as SKS. If the battery in the fob fails for any reason, you can't start
the car. The fob is also like one of those RSA keys you use to generate a
password. When you stick the fob in the ignition, electronic keys are
exchanged and if successful, the key will turn and you can (hopefully)
start the car.
The idea is pretty slick but it makes the car so much more complex that
simple roadside diagnosis is pretty hard and towing is not out of the
question
Now, what I do like are actual keys that have embedded computer chips (like what BMW was using in the late 90's). The cars are basically impossible to steal, but the battery needs significantly less juice to work (just about nothing) and the keys/ignitions are not so expensive.
Nah. I think I mentioned a buddy bought a '02 E55 AMG (I hope I got that
right). We spent the other day trying to make it go. Had to eventually
tow it to the dealer where it awaits the green key...
I think it really helps illustrate your point though.
Yes. Newer BMW motorcycles read the chip installed in the key too. Again,
if that fails or you break it off (as can happen when you drop a GS), she
won't start captain
Umm...I don't remember you mentioning that. Well...when the key gets in it'll be fun though.
It's a very nice car. It's got power and handles reasonably well--nice
build quality (well except for the EIS thing).
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Fabulous looking cars.
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So honestly, I thought this would be another antrieb p.o.s. car. But I finally saw it in person, :ivar it looks sweet. Nice car, boy!
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it may look good (for now) but how does it run?
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The kids of the girl who's living with me (oy vey) always sleep in the car too. My ex would always sleep in the van whenever it took us more than 15 minutes to get somewhere.
The point you ask?
Kids and women can sleep anywhere, especially if they wanna avoid talking to you. SO how does it really run?
www.zxstudios.com
http://creativedragonstudios.smugmug.com
I replaced the serpentine belt and now it squeaks, yes I tightened the tensioner all the way. The car smokes like hell when I start it up; this is probably due to worn valve guides. At idle, there is a slight shake, this is either from a bad engine mount or a misfire. And lastly it leaks a quart of oil a day from what looks to be the oil pan. I bet my dumb ‘friend’ forgot to put on the oil pan gasket because it literally leaks like a sieve.
Other than that, its quiet, has lots of power, and everything works as it should.
http://zwilliams.smugmug.com/
Zac, you see the ride I'm rolling in while waiting for my car? Last night the alternator belt snapped on me, so...I drove to the movie theater (with lights, heater, wiper, stereo) about 8 miles away, saw a movie, drove back, then this morning (before my morning flight) drove to NAPA and changed the alternator belt in the pouring rain in 44F weather. Fun fun fun.
It really made me appreciate the ergonomic handles on my ratchet set though. Even though my tools were drenched (and I was drenched) and it was cold as heck, it wasn't slippery and it didn't feel like cold metal. Those Italians know what they're doing.