I'm sorry to say that the shootout is full up. We do have other workshops, like the upcoming workshop in Shenandoah NP.
Bummer:cry
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What is the weather shaping up to be there? I have heard both things but I was just wondering if i need to hit up the Under Armor surplus store or not.
Dean - we are going to the mountains in September...bring clohing for every kind of weather!!! Honestly, I would count on changing weather, because if it isn't changing it may well be totally miserable! or totally beautiful!
I am bringing long underwear, fleeces, rain gear and down jackets. I am bringing hiking boots and shoes, might even throw my sandals in the bag. Of course, I am driving and have the room for it all.
What is the weather shaping up to be there? I have heard both things but I was just wondering if i need to hit up the Under Armor surplus store or not.
I haven't checked any forecasts, but I'm thinking warm gear is going to be needed.
I watched some morning show today, they were in Yellowstone with winter coats and gloves on.
This morning in Northern Minnesota it was 28 degrees.
I'm bringing more cold weather clothes than I am shorts.
Any reason I shouldn't drive 94 (and save 200 miles) instead of using the "southern" route 90 through SD?
Does 94 close in Sept/ Early Oct. due to snow?
...Thanks...
(remember, I know nothing because I live in always-warm-and-sunny Chicago)
I don't think you'll see any snow in Mn at this time of year.
If you go the northern route you may be in the middle of the fall colors though.
Is there really a 200 mile difference? What was the time difference?
I have a feeling Mapquest has you running on a bunch of scenic roads that, through mountains, can really slow you down.
With mapquest from the twin cities to billings the milage is only 60 miles different.
We're going out the southern route, coming back the northern.
We'll be making a stop at Devil's Tower and a few other spots along the way. (yellowstone)
I ran the Chicago to Billings route, both south and north through mapquest,
it comes up with a 8 mile/8 minute difference in the 2 routes.
I picked Billings because the interstates should be way faster than the 2 laners.
Dave, thanks for the weather info. I used Expedia Trip Planner for the route planning. The time difference is minimal, as is the gas difference. I will miss much of Rte. 89, which looks to be quite scenic - but also might be a slower drive if I do all of 89. After 3 days in a rental car, I'll just want to get there pronto by that point. I'm staying in Great Falls (probably) the night before - it's about 165 miles away so I should make it to St. Mary mid-day.
The mileage difference comes in due to the angle out of Chicago. I had previously thought heading out I-88, then west on 80, to just before Omaha, going up 29, and then out 90 to 89 (in Montana) might be the best route. It might be more scenic as it heads past Wall Drugs, the Badlands, and Crazyhorse & Mt. Rushmore kinda, but to my surprise that wound up being ~1760 instead of ~1565.
So it looks like heading up 94 to Minneapolis and out 94 most of the way to 200 in MT saves a bit. (Anyone know about 200? Good road? Bad road?) I'll just wear warmer clothing. Hey, I've done the Wall Drugs thing and the monuments, and I don't have a spare day for the Badlands.
Devil's Tower is something I want to experience one of these years.
BTW, if anyone's counting, this is the second Shootout just off Rte. 89.
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... I'm staying in Great Falls (probably) the night before - it's about 165 miles away so I should make it to St. Mary mid-day.
Hey David, Sharon and I are also planning on spending Monday night in Great Falls (coming up from Yellowstone). Holler if you want to get together and make the Tuesday drive up together - or compare notes on the route. I'll email you my cellphone number.
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Dean - we are going to the mountains in September...bring clohing for every kind of weather!!! Honestly, I would count on changing weather, because if it isn't changing it may well be totally miserable! or totally beautiful!
I am bringing long underwear, fleeces, rain gear and down jackets. I am bringing hiking boots and shoes, might even throw my sandals in the bag. Of course, I am driving and have the room for it all.
whoever goes to this is in for a treat
i'm new to this site...but am actually from Browning, Montana...(now relocated to northern california)
(about 12 miles east of the town of East Glacier, which is the eastern entrance to the park).
beautiful landscapes are waiting for you.
i was just there a few weeks ago, they were suffering from the "skyland" fire.
when i was there, we couldn't see the sky for 3 days...on the 4th day i packed my kids in the car and made my way to the mountains.
just our luck...the smoke blew away and there was the sun and all of glacier in its glory.
anyway...you'll definately enjoy the scenery.
good luck to all.
p.s. this is my 3rd post tonight...can't sleep...but i'll be around as i learn my way around my new camera.
p.p.s. on the way back..i drove straight for 19 hours :crazy:
I'm in for both too! I think there's some bison (buffalo) in the area, but not sure exactly where. Wouldn't mind finding them or some big-horn sheep in either in a pre- or post-shootout.
i'm just lurking this thread...not sure if anyone's answered you yet as i'm only on page 19 or so...
if you exit glacier national park and go east towards Browning, just right outside the park, on the north side of the road (2-lane road) there is a fenced in area....the fence appears to be heavier dutier than the rest..because buffalo are in there.
I really wanted to drive GTTS! Maybe we'll luck out.
I don't think there is much homework to do. If you fly in to Kalispell, you take GTTS or US2 to get to St. Mary. Or...you rent a helicopter
The drive around Glacier is about the same time as the drive across according to Google Maps...approximately 110 miles, 2 hours. However, the speed limit in Montana is 75, which means you can do about 85 and get away with it likely and make really good time.
Time for a rental car upgrade to a Mustang!
anyway..not sure if you mean you want to drive that fast from Kalispell to teh park or not...but you definately can not drive that fast in the park....many many curvy windy roads will limit you to 35 mph and even slower in parts.
its a trip to be enjoyed.
im so excited for all that are going (and jealous too)
anyway..not sure if you mean you want to drive that fast from Kalispell to teh park or not...but you definately can not drive that fast in the park....many many curvy windy roads will limit you to 35 mph and even slower in parts.
its a trip to be enjoyed.
im so excited for all that are going (and jealous too)
-G
I don't know how many of you are planning to drive through the park on Going to the Sun road but I'm sorry to say that won't be possible. The Sun road will be closed between Avalanche creek and Siyeh bend as of 10:00pm September 16th for road work. That means Logan pass will be inaccessible by road and Hwy 2 is the only way to get from East Glacier and West Glacier. :cry Sorry but I thought you should know.
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I has been told that getting internet access that week is going to require a few big leaps and hurdles. If anyone more familiar with St Mary's can debunk this information I'll love ya forever.
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i'm just lurking this thread...not sure if anyone's answered you yet as i'm only on page 19 or so...
if you exit glacier national park and go east towards Browning, just right outside the park, on the north side of the road (2-lane road) there is a fenced in area....the fence appears to be heavier dutier than the rest..because buffalo are in there.
they're big.
good luck
-G
Hi and welcome! Thanks for the tip! I'll make sure to look for it as it sounds like it'll be close to the St Mary Hotel we're staying at. (right?)
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Hi and welcome! Thanks for the tip! I'll make sure to look for it as it sounds like it'll be close to the St Mary Hotel we're staying at. (right?)
i think from st mary's to east glacier is only like 30 miles (go south on 89)
windy road....good views, you can go past "two medicine lake"
then you arrive at east glacier and head east on hwy 2...and as you head east out of town, you'll cross a bridge (narrow...high) and right after you cross...maybe drive 2 or 3 miles? (not far) and you should see some buffalo lounging around on the north side of the road (left side as you head east).
i hope you find time to make this trip, if you do, post some pictures of those wonderful beasts!
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We had a wicked, wicked thunderstorm yesterday. Day started at 22C, and really no indication that storms were coming, but beautiful thunderheads and then hail about 5 p.m, at 9 p.m., we had northern lights!
Really scary and bizarre, but magnificent.
Now, lets hope for none of that on the preshootout!!!
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We had a wicked, wicked thunderstorm yesterday. Day started at 22C, and really no indication that storms were coming, but beautiful thunderheads and then hail about 5 p.m, at 9 p.m., we had northern lights!
Really scary and bizarre, but magnificent.
Now, lets hope for none of that on the preshootout!!!
I could live with an evening shooting northern lights! Though the chances of that happening as far south as Glacier are quite slim!:cry
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I am bringing long underwear, fleeces, rain gear and down jackets. I am bringing hiking boots and shoes, might even throw my sandals in the bag. Of course, I am driving and have the room for it all.
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I watched some morning show today, they were in Yellowstone with winter coats and gloves on.
This morning in Northern Minnesota it was 28 degrees.
I'm bringing more cold weather clothes than I am shorts.
Basking in the shadows of yesterday's triumphs'.
:yikes
For Dave V...
Any reason I shouldn't drive 94 (and save 200 miles) instead of using the "southern" route 90 through SD?
Does 94 close in Sept/ Early Oct. due to snow?
...Thanks...
(remember, I know nothing because I live in always-warm-and-sunny Chicago)
"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take" - Wayne Gretzky
I don't think you'll see any snow in Mn at this time of year.
If you go the northern route you may be in the middle of the fall colors though.
Is there really a 200 mile difference? What was the time difference?
I have a feeling Mapquest has you running on a bunch of scenic roads that, through mountains, can really slow you down.
With mapquest from the twin cities to billings the milage is only 60 miles different.
We're going out the southern route, coming back the northern.
We'll be making a stop at Devil's Tower and a few other spots along the way. (yellowstone)
I ran the Chicago to Billings route, both south and north through mapquest,
it comes up with a 8 mile/8 minute difference in the 2 routes.
I picked Billings because the interstates should be way faster than the 2 laners.
Basking in the shadows of yesterday's triumphs'.
The mileage difference comes in due to the angle out of Chicago. I had previously thought heading out I-88, then west on 80, to just before Omaha, going up 29, and then out 90 to 89 (in Montana) might be the best route. It might be more scenic as it heads past Wall Drugs, the Badlands, and Crazyhorse & Mt. Rushmore kinda, but to my surprise that wound up being ~1760 instead of ~1565.
So it looks like heading up 94 to Minneapolis and out 94 most of the way to 200 in MT saves a bit. (Anyone know about 200? Good road? Bad road?) I'll just wear warmer clothing. Hey, I've done the Wall Drugs thing and the monuments, and I don't have a spare day for the Badlands.
Devil's Tower is something I want to experience one of these years.
BTW, if anyone's counting, this is the second Shootout just off Rte. 89.
"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take" - Wayne Gretzky
Hey David, Sharon and I are also planning on spending Monday night in Great Falls (coming up from Yellowstone). Holler if you want to get together and make the Tuesday drive up together - or compare notes on the route. I'll email you my cellphone number.
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i'm new to this site...but am actually from Browning, Montana...(now relocated to northern california)
(about 12 miles east of the town of East Glacier, which is the eastern entrance to the park).
beautiful landscapes are waiting for you.
i was just there a few weeks ago, they were suffering from the "skyland" fire.
when i was there, we couldn't see the sky for 3 days...on the 4th day i packed my kids in the car and made my way to the mountains.
just our luck...the smoke blew away and there was the sun and all of glacier in its glory.
anyway...you'll definately enjoy the scenery.
good luck to all.
p.s. this is my 3rd post tonight...can't sleep...but i'll be around as i learn my way around my new camera.
p.p.s. on the way back..i drove straight for 19 hours :crazy:
-G
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if you exit glacier national park and go east towards Browning, just right outside the park, on the north side of the road (2-lane road) there is a fenced in area....the fence appears to be heavier dutier than the rest..because buffalo are in there.
they're big.
good luck
-G
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18-55mm lens
60mm macro lens
75-300mm telephoto lens
canon speelite 580 EXII
anyway..not sure if you mean you want to drive that fast from Kalispell to teh park or not...but you definately can not drive that fast in the park....many many curvy windy roads will limit you to 35 mph and even slower in parts.
its a trip to be enjoyed.
im so excited for all that are going (and jealous too)
-G
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18-55mm lens
60mm macro lens
75-300mm telephoto lens
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I don't know how many of you are planning to drive through the park on Going to the Sun road but I'm sorry to say that won't be possible. The Sun road will be closed between Avalanche creek and Siyeh bend as of 10:00pm September 16th for road work. That means Logan pass will be inaccessible by road and Hwy 2 is the only way to get from East Glacier and West Glacier. :cry Sorry but I thought you should know.
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It's been going since Labor Day and is at eight thousand acres.
It's in South Bay area near the town of Morgan Hill.
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True dat. With that many techheads in one location I'm sure something can be figured out in a pinch.
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Hi and welcome! Thanks for the tip! I'll make sure to look for it as it sounds like it'll be close to the St Mary Hotel we're staying at. (right?)
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i think from st mary's to east glacier is only like 30 miles (go south on 89)
windy road....good views, you can go past "two medicine lake"
then you arrive at east glacier and head east on hwy 2...and as you head east out of town, you'll cross a bridge (narrow...high) and right after you cross...maybe drive 2 or 3 miles? (not far) and you should see some buffalo lounging around on the north side of the road (left side as you head east).
i hope you find time to make this trip, if you do, post some pictures of those wonderful beasts!
good luck
-G
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Hey Skippy! Looking forward to seeing you again! Have a safe trip!
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Has anyone thought of where they are going on their day trips yet? I'm studying a topo map and guide book and it all looks awesome.
Jaraviss: Thanks for the tip on buffalo. I really want to get some images of those big boys.
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We had a wicked, wicked thunderstorm yesterday. Day started at 22C, and really no indication that storms were coming, but beautiful thunderheads and then hail about 5 p.m, at 9 p.m., we had northern lights!
Really scary and bizarre, but magnificent.
Now, lets hope for none of that on the preshootout!!!
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