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  • puzzledpaulpuzzledpaul Registered Users Posts: 1,621 Major grins
    edited August 4, 2008
    << I'm just gonna sit back and hope as the new crowd gets comfy, they'll also want the entry thread sticky back. >>

    Ahhh... by that time there'll be an 'even newer' crowd (hopefully- from Dg pov) who'll benefit from the 'one stop shop' approach ? :)

    (Having been a mod / admin elsewhere for 6+ yrs I see 'thread / post blindness' + not bothering to read rules ... on a regular basis.)

    pp
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  • TangoTango Registered Users Posts: 4,592 Major grins
    edited August 4, 2008
    good, so good from the dgrin pov, but what does the trademark have to say about it? im really more curious than if i really even care if its one way or the other....i just thought to see what what said....but i guess it would mean i will enter one shot over the other from my two ive done
    Nikolai wrote:
    You mean, something like this? mwink.gif

    22016043-L.jpg

    (from this thread: http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?p=104747, gosh quite a while ago it was:-))
    Aaron Nelson
  • puzzledpaulpuzzledpaul Registered Users Posts: 1,621 Major grins
    edited August 4, 2008
    << i would like to have some clarity >>

    My previous post + attached quote associated with Llywellyn's last, p15 :)

    pp
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  • TangoTango Registered Users Posts: 4,592 Major grins
    edited August 4, 2008
    puzzledpaul wrote:
    << i would like to have some clarity >>

    My previous post + attached quote associated with Llywellyn's last, p15 :)

    pp

    thats great, i thought i was doing something wrong....
    Aaron Nelson
  • LlywellynLlywellyn Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 3,186 Major grins
    edited August 4, 2008
    puzzledpaul wrote:
    << I'm just gonna sit back and hope as the new crowd gets comfy, they'll also want the entry thread sticky back. >>

    Ahhh... by that time there'll be an 'even newer' crowd (hopefully- from Dg pov) who'll benefit from the 'one stop shop' approach ? :)

    (Having been a mod / admin elsewhere for 6+ yrs I see 'thread / post blindness' + not bothering to read rules ... on a regular basis.)

    pp

    I still think two stickies isn't overkill. :giggle Sticky 1: "Oh, rules! Readreadread. Alright, I'm ready to enter." Sticky 2: "Oh, here's where I enter. Easy peasy!" <img src="https://us.v-cdn.net/6029383/emoji/mwink.gif&quot; border="0" alt="" >

    I'll just sit stubbornly in my camp, because it affects nothing. :D My bum may just get sore, is all.

    And Aaron, I have no idea about TM usage for images not for sale. <img src="https://us.v-cdn.net/6029383/emoji/ne_nau.gif&quot; border="0" alt="" >
  • GreensquaredGreensquared Registered Users Posts: 2,115 Major grins
    edited August 4, 2008
    AaronNelson wrote:
    im not sure how all the legal stuff goes, but let me ask.

    if a large portion on my entry photograph has a Coke-Cola sign in it, is it legal to enter it in this contest?

    the only thing i think i know about this is that trademarks cannot be in photography and then sold....so is it ok to enter in contests?

    any advice?

    Hmmmm...lemme check on that one for sure.
    Emily
    Psalm 62:5-6

  • TangoTango Registered Users Posts: 4,592 Major grins
    edited August 5, 2008
    can i ask another question?...

    ....watermarks & or sigs.

    (this is to help newer members understand...)(and to help me make it as big as allowed:D )

    the rules have a discription of what is allowed, but i was wondering if a example of one linked or something to just help them size it correctly.
    small is smaller to some, small is just not discribing it good to me....

    good idea...or waste of time?
    Aaron Nelson
  • GreensquaredGreensquared Registered Users Posts: 2,115 Major grins
    edited August 5, 2008
    AaronNelson wrote:
    can i ask another question?...

    ....watermarks & or sigs.

    (this is to help newer members understand...)(and to help me make it as big as allowed:D )

    the rules have a discription of what is allowed, but i was wondering if a example of one linked or something to just help them size it correctly.
    small is smaller to some, small is just not discribing it good to me....

    good idea...or waste of time?

    Great suggestion! I'll add it to my "to do" list. :D
    Emily
    Psalm 62:5-6

  • DoctorItDoctorIt Administrators Posts: 11,951 moderator
    edited August 5, 2008
    Llywellyn wrote:
    I just don't think having two clicks to get to the thread instead of one is the best solution.
    Heavens NO!!! Clicking TWICE!!!??!!! I know, we make it sooooo hard for you.


    I for one support Emily 100% and thank her for finally finding the time to organize this joint. It's an easy choice between:

    a) Adding 3 seconds to your life by clicking twice, or

    b) adding countless hours to Emily's and my (volunteer) life by constantly answering the same question and linking people to the right thread.

    So Llywellyn, as an editor, are you telling me you don't appreciate a well-organized table of contents that you consult before flipping to the right page???

    :hide
    Erik
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  • pyroPrints.compyroPrints.com Registered Users Posts: 1,383 Major grins
    edited August 5, 2008
    AaronNelson wrote:
    im not sure how all the legal stuff goes, but let me ask.

    if a large portion on my entry photograph has a Coke-Cola sign in it, is it legal to enter it in this contest?

    the only thing i think i know about this is that trademarks cannot be in photography and then sold....so is it ok to enter in contests?

    any advice?

    IANAL, but I believe this falls under Fair Use.
    pyroPrints.com (my little t-shirt shop)
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  • LlywellynLlywellyn Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 3,186 Major grins
    edited August 5, 2008
    DoctorIt wrote:
    Heavens NO!!! Clicking TWICE!!!??!!! I know, we make it sooooo hard for you.

    :giggle As an editor I do consult the TOC, but editing a book/magazine and editing a web page are very different.

    I'm happy sitting in my camp. You guys run this, and I'm happy you do so. I don't get to see the backend, so my opinion comes only from my narrow, limited view as an end user. As always, do as you will! I will comply. thumb.gif And I can hold on to my opinion while doing so. No harm done to anyone anyhow.

    I expressed an opinion. The opinion was heard. /issue

    Back to stealth mode I go. lol3.gif
  • TangoTango Registered Users Posts: 4,592 Major grins
    edited August 5, 2008
    pyroPrints.com wrote:
    IANAL, but I believe this falls under Fair Use.

    thanks, i look at the link and my eyes instantly glossed over...im going to guess its fine....mwink.gif

    btw, whats IANAL?ne_nau.gif
    Aaron Nelson
  • pyroPrints.compyroPrints.com Registered Users Posts: 1,383 Major grins
    edited August 5, 2008
    AaronNelson wrote:
    btw, whats IANAL?ne_nau.gif

    it's not as dirty as it sounds:
    IANAL is a Usenet and chat abbreviation (acronym) for "I am not a lawyer." A similar abbreviation, TINLA, stands for "This is not legal advice."

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IANAL
    pyroPrints.com (my little t-shirt shop)
    pyroPrints.com/5819572 The Photo Section
  • TangoTango Registered Users Posts: 4,592 Major grins
    edited August 5, 2008
    pyroPrints.com wrote:
    it's not as dirty as it sounds:
    IANAL is a Usenet and chat abbreviation (acronym) for "I am not a lawyer." A similar abbreviation, TINLA, stands for "This is not legal advice."

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IANAL

    it just occured to me....maybe i should just start googling my questions prior to asking my questions.....>enter smiliy hitting himself in the forehead...DOH!<
    Aaron Nelson
  • GreensquaredGreensquared Registered Users Posts: 2,115 Major grins
    edited August 6, 2008
    AaronNelson wrote:
    it just occured to me....maybe i should just start googling my questions prior to asking my questions.....>enter smiliy hitting himself in the forehead...DOH!<

    Ahhh, but then it would not benefit the others here, would it?

    A very valid question, and a tricky one. From what I can, there's nothing to stop you from using it for this contest, as long as you don't get anywhere with it. However, the Dgrin rules state that it remains your image, but Dgrin can use it for advertising purposes. That's where the tricky part comes in. If Dgrin plasters it on the banner, is it then infringment? Dgrin is a free site, so it's not selling anything by using that logo, but it is sponsored by SmugMug. So I guess that still boils down to an "I'm not sure". I suppose if an entry like that gets that far, perhaps it will just not make it to the winner's gallery. <img src="https://us.v-cdn.net/6029383/emoji/ne_nau.gif&quot; border="0" alt="" >
    Emily
    Psalm 62:5-6

  • TangoTango Registered Users Posts: 4,592 Major grins
    edited August 6, 2008
    i agree that its good to have these questions asked here, i was meaning in reference to the questions asked that i should just google...like what is "IANAL"....:D ...that was the strangest thing too me...haha

    btw, ive decided against the trademark shot, but its still good to know about entering trademark stuff anyway.

    so, ...thank you for looking into it!
    Aaron Nelson
  • pemmettpemmett Registered Users Posts: 507 Major grins
    edited August 7, 2008
    IANAL - I always thought it had something to do with being anal retentive as in "I am anal". Which if you read the statement "IANAL, but I believe this falls under Fair Use." with my understanding of what it meant, you can image the expression on my face.

    Cheers/Peter
    "Take a moment to capture a memory that will last forever"
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  • BeemerChefBeemerChef Registered Users Posts: 265 Major grins
    edited August 7, 2008
    puzzledpaul wrote:
    OK - from the emphasis on 'PHOTOS' - I'll take it that no 3D rendered elements are allowed at all - that simplifies things :)

    (although there's a lot of 'product shot' type 'photos' around ... which aren't ... they're renders of models :) )


    << really not following you >>

    As an example - if I'd taken a photo of a table with stuff on it and I wanted to add an object - that either didn't exist IRL or I didn't have access to - then an option would be to model that object, render it (in accordance with the lighting and perspective of the photo) ... and then create a composite image from both the photographic and rendered image elements (photo being the major percentage in both area / pixels ... and subject matter.)

    Had no intention of turning it into a modelling contest - just had an idea for something and wanted to check :)

    thx again

    pp

    I am going to call myself "puzzledara" soon! I had no clue you can add stuff to a photo... Here I was in the Canyon this morning, way before sunrise, woken my dog early, waiting and waiting for the right moment... and now I understand that I can add an Eagle to the photo that I finally captured as he never showed up! Wow... I must have been away too long... and then again... I think I will stick to taking some real photos!!! <img src="https://us.v-cdn.net/6029383/emoji/headscratch.gif&quot; border="0" alt="" >

    Be well...
    Ara & Spirit (he is working on it!!!)
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    My Gallery in progress...
    On the road, homeless, with my buddy Spirit...
  • NikolaiNikolai Registered Users Posts: 19,035 Major grins
    edited August 7, 2008
    BeemerChef wrote:
    I am going to call myself "puzzledara" soon! I had no clue you can add stuff to a photo... Here I was in the Canyon this morning, way before sunrise, woken my dog early, waiting and waiting for the right moment... and now I understand that I can add an Eagle to the photo that I finally captured as he never showed up! Wow...
    You mean, something like this? mwink.gif
    12420626_6PHHB-L.jpg
    Sorry, very old photo and very crude post work...
    "May the f/stop be with you!"
  • BeemerChefBeemerChef Registered Users Posts: 265 Major grins
    edited August 7, 2008
    Nikolai wrote:
    You mean, something like this? mwink.gif
    12420626_6PHHB-L.jpg
    Sorry, very old photo and very crude post work...


    Love that plane there!
    I am only teasing at the direction "photography" has taken... Being a "beginner" I really get puzzled at times...
    The Oasis of my Soul our Blog and Life Therapy...
    My Gallery in progress...
    On the road, homeless, with my buddy Spirit...
  • LlywellynLlywellyn Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 3,186 Major grins
    edited August 14, 2008
    You know, I think a guest judge was overlooked in all this planning:

    265292878_2xyJV-M.jpg

    :D
  • NikolaiNikolai Registered Users Posts: 19,035 Major grins
    edited August 14, 2008
    Llywellyn wrote:
    You know, I think a guest judge was overlooked in all this planning:
    :D
    Laughing.gif
    Cats!
    Good one, Kerry! thumb.gif
    "May the f/stop be with you!"
  • GreensquaredGreensquared Registered Users Posts: 2,115 Major grins
    edited August 19, 2008
    Winner's Gallery
    All right, I now have the top five from each round proudly displayed in the Winner's Gallery. You'll also notice that those images are rotating up in the second slot of the banner above (along with the original Challenge winners). YAY! clap.gifclap.gifclap.gif
    Emily
    Psalm 62:5-6

  • NikolaiNikolai Registered Users Posts: 19,035 Major grins
    edited August 19, 2008
    Greensquared wrote:
    All right, I now have the top five from each round proudly displayed in the Winner's Gallery. You'll also notice that those images are rotating up in the second slot of the banner above. YAY! clap.gifclap.gifclap.gif
    Yay, thanks Emily! thumb.gif
    "May the f/stop be with you!"
  • LlywellynLlywellyn Registered Users, Retired Mod Posts: 3,186 Major grins
    edited August 19, 2008
    Greensquared wrote:
    All right, I now have the top five from each round proudly displayed in the Winner's Gallery. You'll also notice that those images are rotating up in the second slot of the banner above. YAY! clap.gifclap.gifclap.gif

    Cool! Thank you. clap.gif
  • Karrie McDKarrie McD Registered Users Posts: 372 Major grins
    edited August 20, 2008
    Very Cool!
    Thank you Emily for all your time!!

    That is one collection of amazing photos!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! bowdown.gifbowdown.gifbowdown.gif
    "Whether you think you can or you can't, you are right."
  • dlplumerdlplumer Registered Users Posts: 8,081 Major grins
    edited August 20, 2008
    Karrie McD wrote:
    Thank you Emily for all your time!!

    That is one collection of amazing photos!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! bowdown.gifbowdown.gifbowdown.gif

    15524779-Ti.gifclap.gifclap.gifclap.gif
    Dan
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  • JAGJAG Super Moderators Posts: 9,088 moderator
    edited August 20, 2008
    Greensquared wrote:
    All right, I now have the top five from each round proudly displayed in the Winner's Gallery. You'll also notice that those images are rotating up in the second slot of the banner above (along with the original Challenge winners). YAY! clap.gifclap.gifclap.gif

    Thank you Emily! I just saw my pic up there this morning and thought WOW!wings.gif
    ~JAG (Joyce) - My site: JAG Creations JAG Creations be a fan.
  • jeffreaux2jeffreaux2 Registered Users Posts: 4,762 Major grins
    edited August 20, 2008
    Emily,

    I'll jump in with everyone else who is thanking you for all you effort and work in overseeing the challenges.

    Great job!:D
    Thanks,
    Jeff
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  • GreensquaredGreensquared Registered Users Posts: 2,115 Major grins
    edited August 20, 2008
    Awww...it's totally my pleasure! iloveyou.gifiloveyou.gifiloveyou.gif
    Emily
    Psalm 62:5-6

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