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Here's another ..... Convention Center... What do you think?
SNAPPY... Very nice conversion.... I like the warm colors, and I do think that the crop enhances the overall image, drawing you into the lines and curves. also filling in the round windows with the tangerine color helps draw the eye to the curves... I like it!
ginette
"In the End, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends."
Snappy, I sent you a message. I really like this one, your work on the convention center. I like the colors, your crop, and I have always liked the trees.
SNAPPY... Very nice conversion.... I like the warm colors, and I do think that the crop enhances the overall image, drawing you into the lines and curves. also filling in the round windows with the tangerine color helps draw the eye to the curves... I like it!
ginette
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Thanks Ginette,
I looked through my stuff for a good sky with warm colors. The red circles in the windows were already there. I just had to do some orange glow effect on the building and paste in a new sky. I'm not sure if the building is still too bright for the sky. It does have some pop though.
Where's "Rory's Bum"? I'm waiting to see some work on that. I know that's a good one. Unless you don't want to compete with "Rutt's Butt". Heheheh
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GINGER... I really like this one, the s-curve, the shadow, the lines of the clapboards... Clean, simple and to the point....
But... (boy do I hate to add this...) Maybe, rotate it a bit so that it is straight on the horizon line?...
ginette
"In the End, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends."
you put a lot into this shot, and it shows. nice job.
I appreciate you taking the time to comment. It's OK if you have something negative to say too. I can take it. I do want to keep improving. I am pretty pleased with this picture now. But, I've looked at it for so long, I could be missing something that's obvious to someone else.
Thanks Ginette,
I looked through my stuff for a good sky with warm colors. The red circles in the windows were already there. I just had to do some orange glow effect on the building and paste in a new sky. I'm not sure if the building is still too bright for the sky. It does have some pop though.
Where's "Rory's Bum"? I'm waiting to see some work on that. I know that's a good one. Unless you don't want to compete with "Rutt's Butt". Heheheh
SNAPPY... Nice on the windows... What ever you did worked. I think it "pops" nicely, and like it. But that's only mo, and may not hold up against the others.
Did I miss something on the thread about RuTTs BuTT? I messed with it, but never saw a comment, so moved on... But I think he really hit on a winner there... It works, and works well.
RoRy's BuM... Just not sure what I am going to do there. Not sure there is or was enough interest. I think you are one of the only ones really interested in that one. I have a couple of more thoughts, and may yet find some time to implement them. I love the challenge, but it's not what drives me (with the twins (12) home for the summer... they tend to drive me.)Still, I'm working at it... trying to find the right mix... Will have to see what comes. RoRy's BuM or something else...
Thanks for all of your kind words though... It's nice to get comments now and again.
ginette
"In the End, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends."
To simple I dunno I kinda like it . But I have been known to have tastes that are bubble off plumb.
It is between this one and the one below I have not done a lot of shooting lately.
Tim
Thanks for straightening the photo, I was turning them out like an assembly line.
Two simple pictures here, and I might be through for today. Tonight, I mean, have no idea it is 2:30 AM.
I love white on white. Simplicity, I also love the very complicated, busy one might say. Andy, I am afraid to look at the pictures of wide angles, am afraid I would try to copy them.
To simple I dunno I kinda like it . But I have been known to have tastes that are bubble off plumb.
It is between this one and the one below I have not done a lot of shooting lately.
Tim
I like lines and curbs, myself. And I am not going to get onto that thing about does it, or doesn't it. I am a bit tired of that. It probably doesn't, but I like it.
Sid, I love it, another one where I am not sure of the curves, but that is just a myth anyway. One or the other, Andy said, and I am sure his word is true, he is an honorable man.
SNAPPY... Nice on the windows... What ever you did worked. I think it "pops" nicely, and like it. But that's only mo, and may not hold up against the others.
Did I miss something on the thread about RuTTs BuTT? I messed with it, but never saw a comment, so moved on... But I think he really hit on a winner there... It works, and works well.
RoRy's BuM... Just not sure what I am going to do there. Not sure there is or was enough interest. I think you are one of the only ones really interested in that one. I have a couple of more thoughts, and may yet find some time to implement them. I love the challenge, but it's not what drives me (with the twins (12) home for the summer... they tend to drive me.)Still, I'm working at it... trying to find the right mix... Will have to see what comes. RoRy's BuM or something else...
Thanks for all of your kind words though... It's nice to get comments now and again.
ginette
I liked Rory's bum.
First I had to figure out what a bum was, the other kind.
The more I looked, the more I liked it, and when Snappy mentioned tweaking it a bit, I thought of what a truly good picture it could be.
Not eligible, I didn't even take it
This was featured on FM this morning:
I just thought it put my daisy effort with the fly in perspective. The daisy's lines and curves are really beautiful here, no? Oh, and I guess when the shot is this good, I have to accept the frame, though I wouldn't have done it.
I just thought it put my daisy effort with the fly in perspective. The daisy's lines and curves are really beautiful here, no? Oh, and I guess when the shot is this good, I have to accept the frame, though I wouldn't have done it.
I have to say, that as frames go, this on is pretty good. It's very simple, almost like HCB's (RIP) black borders with his signature outside. If I bought a print of this, I'd want a real signature, not just digital text. A real framer could work with this, though they really prefer plain white borders with signature pretty close to image, below. Simplify, simplify, simplify, no?
Here's another ..... Convention Center... What do you think?
Yes. BTW, if you only have elements, you cannot reproduce what I was doing anyway. LAB in only in full PS. But I think you have nailed it, so don't worry.
I like this a lot, but agree with Eric that we can make it jump with a little post work.
How about this version:
Adujstments->Shadow/Highlight. 19/31/85/0... Color correction +20, clipping both .01 This brings up the details in the water and person.
Mode->LAB
Adjustments->Curves
Here are the curves I used:
What's going on here? The L curve is doing almost exactly the same job it did for Ginger in the Turner Sky picture. I have made it very steep in the highlights in order to bring out the sky details (the rainbow in this case.) Then my problem was to bring it in for a soft landing, flatten it so the whole image didn't end up being too dark. I sacrificed some shadow detail in order to keep the curve fairly steep on the water surface. The detail in the trees is distracting anyway, IMHO.
I started off by just steepening the A curve by 12 in each direction as well. But the boat is some hi-vis color that is already very magenta. Steepening the magenta side of the A curve where the boat lives, just put it over the top, out of gamut, almost an impossible color. So I had to treat the two sides of this curve differently. I definitly wanted the green side steep to make the forest look alive and make the lilly pads jump. But I had to bring the magenta side in for a soft landing. The middle of the magenta side needed to be steepend to make the rainbow colors more vibrant. But we had to put things back on track before the boat colors in the deep magenta.
The B curve is simpler. I just steepened it by 12 on the left (yellow) side and 15 on the right (blue) side. I used this asymetric steepening in order to move the sky and water a bit toward the blue side. They were pretty neutral before. This curve has made the forest a bit yellow for my taste. Perhaps the yellow side of the curve should be softened a bit (as I did with the magenta side of the A curve.)
Is this working for this image?
The B curve was just steepened, but a little asymetrically. The left end (yellow) came in by 12, but I brough
Sid, I love it, another one where I am not sure of the curves, but that is just a myth anyway. One or the other, Andy said, and I am sure his word is true, he is an honorable man.
RuTT... I played around with your "BuTT" shot... Had fun... Still, I think I may like the original best.?. Again, Great Shot!
ginette
Sorry I didn't respond here. There has been A LOT of playing around with this shot, here, on FM, and also on DM's CT mailing list. I've gotten many different edits and technique suggestions. Isn't it great when learning is fun?
My three favorite dicisions with this image were:
Lose the arm. The curve is too beautiful in the middle upper torso and the arm really distracted. She could be standing arms akimbo, or with one arm raised, so it doesn't look unnatural.
Lose the sand and simplify and strengthen the waves. The sand was just distracting. No lines or curves there. And actually a little ugly by comparison to the woman. It just wasn't adding anything. On the other hand, the strong simplified wave sets a sense of place. Yes this is a sexy picture, but she is looking out at the ocean into infinity. This would be a good time to come up behind her and put your arms around her, don't you think? She might be open to it. I think that's a large part of what makes it so sexy.
Seeking out professional help on FM and CT with the post processing. There are very different knowledge bases on these two places, but in both cases, we're talking world class. Some were willing to share their techniques (and I've posted on the PS forum) and others won't (I think you might have to pay, like for a magic trick.) Anyway, I've learned a ton from the pros about what to do to make flesh both more beautiful and more realistic at the same time.
So I guess that your two edits went in the opposite direction of decision #2 which I'm pretty sure was the right thing. Thanks, though. Your ideas are always interesting.
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Hope they don't post flowers, hehe
ginger
Attention Rutt, Spockling, Ginette ...
Here's another ..... Convention Center... What do you think?
Susan Appel Photography My Blog
ginette
you put a lot into this shot, and it shows. nice job.
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It all looks very professional.
ginger
Thanks Ginette,
I looked through my stuff for a good sky with warm colors. The red circles in the windows were already there. I just had to do some orange glow effect on the building and paste in a new sky. I'm not sure if the building is still too bright for the sky. It does have some pop though.
Where's "Rory's Bum"? I'm waiting to see some work on that. I know that's a good one. Unless you don't want to compete with "Rutt's Butt". Heheheh
Susan Appel Photography My Blog
GINGER... I really like this one, the s-curve, the shadow, the lines of the clapboards... Clean, simple and to the point....
But... (boy do I hate to add this...) Maybe, rotate it a bit so that it is straight on the horizon line?...
I appreciate you taking the time to comment. It's OK if you have something negative to say too. I can take it.
Susan Appel Photography My Blog
SNAPPY... Nice on the windows... What ever you did worked. I think it "pops" nicely, and like it. But that's only mo, and may not hold up against the others.
Did I miss something on the thread about RuTTs BuTT? I messed with it, but never saw a comment, so moved on... But I think he really hit on a winner there... It works, and works well.
RoRy's BuM... Just not sure what I am going to do there. Not sure there is or was enough interest. I think you are one of the only ones really interested in that one. I have a couple of more thoughts, and may yet find some time to implement them. I love the challenge, but it's not what drives me (with the twins (12) home for the summer... they tend to drive me.)
Thanks for all of your kind words though... It's nice to get comments now and again.
ginette
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Lines and Curbs what think ya?
To simple I dunno I kinda like it . But I have been known to have tastes that are bubble off plumb.
It is between this one and the one below I have not done a lot of shooting lately.
Tim
There are lines and curves! Also it is an historical park, a very old house and grounds.
Two simple pictures here, and I might be through for today. Tonight, I mean, have no idea it is 2:30 AM.
I love white on white. Simplicity, I also love the very complicated, busy one might say. Andy, I am afraid to look at the pictures of wide angles, am afraid I would try to copy them.
ginger
I forgot this. They are a locally owned and operated store, the original is on the other side of two bridges.
First I had to figure out what a bum was, the other kind.
The more I looked, the more I liked it, and when Snappy mentioned tweaking it a bit, I thought of what a truly good picture it could be.
g
This was featured on FM this morning:
I just thought it put my daisy effort with the fly in perspective. The daisy's lines and curves are really beautiful here, no? Oh, and I guess when the shot is this good, I have to accept the frame, though I wouldn't have done it.
How about this version:
- Adujstments->Shadow/Highlight. 19/31/85/0... Color correction +20, clipping both .01 This brings up the details in the water and person.
- Mode->LAB
- Adjustments->Curves
Here are the curves I used:What's going on here? The L curve is doing almost exactly the same job it did for Ginger in the Turner Sky picture. I have made it very steep in the highlights in order to bring out the sky details (the rainbow in this case.) Then my problem was to bring it in for a soft landing, flatten it so the whole image didn't end up being too dark. I sacrificed some shadow detail in order to keep the curve fairly steep on the water surface. The detail in the trees is distracting anyway, IMHO.
I started off by just steepening the A curve by 12 in each direction as well. But the boat is some hi-vis color that is already very magenta. Steepening the magenta side of the A curve where the boat lives, just put it over the top, out of gamut, almost an impossible color. So I had to treat the two sides of this curve differently. I definitly wanted the green side steep to make the forest look alive and make the lilly pads jump. But I had to bring the magenta side in for a soft landing. The middle of the magenta side needed to be steepend to make the rainbow colors more vibrant. But we had to put things back on track before the boat colors in the deep magenta.
The B curve is simpler. I just steepened it by 12 on the left (yellow) side and 15 on the right (blue) side. I used this asymetric steepening in order to move the sky and water a bit toward the blue side. They were pretty neutral before. This curve has made the forest a bit yellow for my taste. Perhaps the yellow side of the curve should be softened a bit (as I did with the magenta side of the A curve.)
Is this working for this image?
The B curve was just steepened, but a little asymetrically. The left end (yellow) came in by 12, but I brough
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My three favorite dicisions with this image were:
- Lose the arm. The curve is too beautiful in the middle upper torso and the arm really distracted. She could be standing arms akimbo, or with one arm raised, so it doesn't look unnatural.
- Lose the sand and simplify and strengthen the waves. The sand was just distracting. No lines or curves there. And actually a little ugly by comparison to the woman. It just wasn't adding anything. On the other hand, the strong simplified wave sets a sense of place. Yes this is a sexy picture, but she is looking out at the ocean into infinity. This would be a good time to come up behind her and put your arms around her, don't you think? She might be open to it. I think that's a large part of what makes it so sexy.
- Seeking out professional help on FM and CT with the post processing. There are very different knowledge bases on these two places, but in both cases, we're talking world class. Some were willing to share their techniques (and I've posted on the PS forum) and others won't (I think you might have to pay, like for a magic trick.) Anyway, I've learned a ton from the pros about what to do to make flesh both more beautiful and more realistic at the same time.
So I guess that your two edits went in the opposite direction of decision #2 which I'm pretty sure was the right thing. Thanks, though. Your ideas are always interesting.I don't know about this one. It's a good shot, the exposure is spot on, but it just doesn't grab me the way that most of your shots do